Act 2 Janus resolution

[DarkAcolyte]

How did you guys handle Janus?

The imperial in me says purge the pointy ears, especially since they have been instigating a violent rebellion and actively idiotically ignoring the growing Chaos corruption because eww humans. On the other hand, they are also ‘technically’ one of the good factions in the setting, at least by Warhammer standards, and the RPG player in me wants to help everyone find a peaceful resolution.

[RavenHeresy]

"If you can confront the xenos, look upon the xenos, even think upon the xenos, without revulsion, then you are as damned as they." - Inquisitor Loffengar, Ordo Xenos

[DarkAcolyte]

Originally posted by RavenHeresy:

"If you can confront the xenos, look upon the xenos, even think upon the xenos, without revulsion, then you are as damned as they." - Inquisitor Loffengar, Ordo Xenos

Guilliman would probably like a word with Loffengar, because without their assistance he would be still sleeping and Abaddon would’ve krumpted most of Segmentum Solar during the 13th Black Crusade.

I mean yes, tolerate not the xenos, but you cannot deny that they have their uses at times, especially in the face of greater threats.

[Soviet Bear]

Honestly the only thing that i took into consideration was that these quite a few eldar + a Farseer (high dodge is a b!tch) an a lot of rebel fodder, But i will have proper controll of MY world, plus the Warrant of Trade doesn't mean the Inquisition wont move in to purge the planet leaving a devastated world as a big F you, plus Eldar are a$$holes even though they are the reason the galaxy is F'ed.

on the upside you gain the "wisdom" of a advanced race, you avoid a hard fight and they help fight the cultist, but their still a-holes.

[Seswatha]

There are eldar, and they probably drop loot. I'd kill Yrliet there too but she has personal quests that have loot later on.

[I'm A Distraction!]

Hilariously I think you get more dogmatic alignment points letting them live - so long as you make them acknowledge human supremacy on the planet.

As for what to do with them now that I'm in Act 4... Working with the Eldar eventually gets you their respect, but my god do they make very frustrating allies to have.

[Neoz]

Originally posted by Charlie019:

Originally posted by RavenHeresy:

"If you can confront the xenos, look upon the xenos, even think upon the xenos, without revulsion, then you are as damned as they." - Inquisitor Loffengar, Ordo Xenos

Guilliman would probably like a word with Loffengar, because without their assistance he would be still sleeping and Abaddon would’ve krumpted most of Segmentum Solar during the 13th Black Crusade.

I mean yes, tolerate not the xenos, but you cannot deny that they have their uses at times, especially in the face of greater threats.

and make great big tiddy aeldari GFs

[Neoz]

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

Hilariously I think you get more dogmatic alignment points letting them live - so long as you make them acknowledge human supremacy on the planet.

As for what to do with them now that I'm in Act 4... Working with the Eldar eventually gets you their respect, but my god do they make very frustrating allies to have.

well, your kind DID basically blow up their home... I'd be pissy too.

[DarkAcolyte]

Originally posted by rorek55:

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

Hilariously I think you get more dogmatic alignment points letting them live - so long as you make them acknowledge human supremacy on the planet.

As for what to do with them now that I'm in Act 4... Working with the Eldar eventually gets you their respect, but my god do they make very frustrating allies to have.

well, your kind DID basically blow up their home... I'd be pissy too.

It’s Warhammer, blowing up or destroying homes is the galactic standard greeting in this setting.

Originally posted by rorek55:

Originally posted by Charlie019:

Guilliman would probably like a word with Loffengar, because without their assistance he would be still sleeping and Abaddon would’ve krumpted most of Segmentum Solar during the 13th Black Crusade.

I mean yes, tolerate not the xenos, but you cannot deny that they have their uses at times, especially in the face of greater threats.

and make great big tiddy aeldari GFs

My god, tolerance of useful xenos is one thing, but copulating? What are we, Tau?
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Yes Inquisitor, this man, right here.

[Daliena]

I left them alive, even if I had to spell it out very carefully to them that they were not the masters of the planet, and we could co-exist but the second they tried to take over again, I was going to turn every section of the planet they controlled into a parking lot.

Ultimately, the planet has a 'soul' of sorts, and the Eldar are the ones best placed to cleanse it of the taint of Chaos, and if I have to choose a neighbor, I'd rather tolerate Racist Grandpa than Slaanesh Patrol.

[I'm A Distraction!]

Originally posted by rorek55:

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

Hilariously I think you get more dogmatic alignment points letting them live - so long as you make them acknowledge human supremacy on the planet.

As for what to do with them now that I'm in Act 4... Working with the Eldar eventually gets you their respect, but my god do they make very frustrating allies to have.

well, your kind DID basically blow up their home... I'd be pissy too.

Still haven't found the context for that, and considering the survivors think its completely fine to glass a human world knowing that there's a fleet coming to wipe them out for doing so, to kill ONE person they have a beef with, my guess is that they may have been doing some stuff to provoke Theodora in dropping The Beast on them.

[Daliena]

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

Originally posted by rorek55:

well, your kind DID basically blow up their home... I'd be pissy too.

Still haven't found the context for that, and considering the survivors think its completely fine to glass a human world knowing that there's a fleet coming to wipe them out for doing so, to kill ONE person they have a beef with, my guess is that they may have been doing some stuff to provoke Theodora in dropping The Beast on them.

Apparently, Theodora somehow sent a super-plague on a derelict ship which then infected Craftworld Crudarach right down to the structure, thus leading to it's destruction.

And yeah, that's just standard Eldar. The lives of "lesser" species are basically worthless to them, they'd gladly burn down entire star systems if it meant saving a single space elf life. And they tend to be idiots in the process.

See Dawn of War 2, "Oh no, Tyranids incoming! Well, we better use our immense foresight and psychic might to LITERALLY KEEP THE DEFENDERS FROM REALIZING THE TYRANIDS ARE HERE SO THEY COULD PUT UP A FIGHT, and instead lure in Orks to keep them busy while we also actively sabotage everything we possibly can, because our master plan is to lure the swarm onto one of these planets then basically Exterminatus it, so that they won't be in a condition to be a threat to our Craftworld which would be next on their path after this human system."

[Ninth Hour]

Keep in mind that, in the Eldar's view, humanity invaded their maiden world and caused it great ecological harm. In the scenario of colonist vs. native, the Eldar are the aggrieved natives here.

I think we are meant to the understand their actions as an emotional and tribal response rather than a rational one. In the real world, we have seen how such forces have led to mutually destructive decisions by warring nations.

[Daliena]

Originally posted by Ninth Hour:

Keep in mind that, in the Eldar's view, humanity invaded their maiden world and caused it great ecological harm. In the scenario of colonist vs. native, the Eldar are the aggrieved natives here.

I think we are meant to the understand the actions of the Eldar as an emotional and tribal response rather than a rational one. In the real world, we have seen how such forces have led to mutually destructive decisions.

It does kind of lead to a certain debate. If the Eldar seeded the world with basic, non-sapient life thousands upon thousands of years ago with the intent to eventually colonize it (but then got way too busy being annihilated to follow through for an even longer time) , then just kinda left it be, and only now arrive after humans had arrived and were the first actual sapient settlers, who's the OG native?

[Aranador]

The great thing about an RPG, is you get to play your way.

SPOILER

If you go in Iconoclasting it up, you can make peace with the Xeno's, and Heinrich will comment that it is your right to do so, just to be careful.

[DarkAcolyte]

Originally posted by Aranador:

The great thing about an RPG, is you get to play your way.

SPOILER

If you go in Iconoclasting it up, you can make peace with the Xeno's, and Heinrich will comment that it is your right to do so, just to be careful.

Isn't that the option that permits them to rule the entire planet through their brainwashed human puppet? Ewwww.
I mean its one thing to promise them coexistence, not handing over the planet but allowing them to stay there peacefully if they leave the humans alone (dogmatic), but promising them the entire planet? And their own human subjects to rule over with their puppet brainwashed human? Permitting xenos rule over humans?

Heretical, absolutely heretical and disgusting. Bad enough we have humans simping for their filthy blue Tau overlords, and now humans simping for pointy ear overlords? Burn it with fire, and as an agent of Ordos Xenos, Heinrix should be ashamed for even saying that.