Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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aramintai Dec 24, 2023 @ 4:40am
Why aren't there repercussion for Theodora's killer
Aside from the reveal in chapter 3, which I'm not sure would have even happened if a certain companion wasn't taken to party at the start of said chapter, nothing ever comes out of it. No talking about it, no trial, no nothing. Is it a bug or a narrative oversight?
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JimmysTheBestCop Dec 24, 2023 @ 9:49am 
We never can really know the truth about Theodora we only have other untrustworthy characters opinions in the matter.

Maybe she got doubled crossed by ygeord inquisitor. Dude is crazy. We can't believe what he says.

Was she being heretical? We don't really know.

Argenta should have been airlocked after confessing. She had no proof of anything. No one does.

We basically did the same stuff as Theodora and you can still end the game with nomos bring the emperor's herald in the expanse.

Besides Abelard and Ulfar literally every companion we are better off without. Airlock all of them.
jonoliveira12 Dec 24, 2023 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by The Binary Son:
DUDE. DON'T SPOIL THE GAME IN THE TITLES OF YOUR POSTS. IDIOT.
Spoiler culture ruins discussion. I never respected it.
Atomsk Dec 24, 2023 @ 9:59am 
Originally posted by corisai:
Originally posted by Atomsk:
Being able to instantly kill a Rogue Trader and near instantly kill a Storm Trooper is lore breaking/bad writing.
???
They're a mere humans... And Mort died mostly because of his weapon pick - Melta isn't suited for close-quarter combat.

So yes, I'm asbolutely fine that normal human killed 2 other normal humans with a sudden attack.

Saying a RT is a mere human is an understatement, they are better trained and have more experience than a Space Marine, not to mention all the relics and ancient weaponry they have in their arsenal. RT's are basically finance focused Inquisitors.

So yes, a mere SoB killing both a RT and Stormtrooper without either of them putting up a fight is not plausible.
corisai Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:09am 
Originally posted by Atomsk:
Saying a RT is a mere human is an understatement, they are better trained and have more experience than a Space Marine
You can't be serious, lol. Most of Rogue Traders aren't participate in each and every battle.

Originally posted by Atomsk:
not to mention all the relics and ancient weaponry they have in their arsenal.
It's mentioned several times in lore (official books) that fancy ancient toys like force fields are not reliable.

Originally posted by Atomsk:
So yes, a mere SoB killing both a RT and Stormtrooper without either of them putting up a fight is not plausible.
She come, saw Theodora hypnotised by Chaos shards - so only enemy was Mort, who are +/- equal to her in power. Absolutely plausible, especially compared with out escape from Commoragh :steamhappy:
aramintai Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by jonoliveira12:
Originally posted by The Binary Son:
DUDE. DON'T SPOIL THE GAME IN THE TITLES OF YOUR POSTS. IDIOT.
Spoiler culture ruins discussion. I never respected it.
Don't mind the guy, he's overreacting. And it's not a spoiler since she was murdered in the very first minutes of the game.
Atomsk Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by corisai:
She come, saw Theodora hypnotised by Chaos shards - so only enemy was Mort, who are +/- equal to her in power. Absolutely plausible, especially compared with out escape from Commoragh :steamhappy:

Well I guess that's not the worst explanation, but it does mean Theodora must've been a rookie Rogue Trader bordering amateur hour.

Yes the escape was also lore breaking.
Originally posted by Atomsk:
Originally posted by corisai:
???

They're not ready to be attacked suddenly by her. What's wrong here? They aren't super humans like Space Marines so get caught by surprise.

When you investigate their bodies, both of them were instantly killed without being able to react. It wasn't a Temple Assassin that killed them, it was a mere Sister of Battle who aren't even trained in assassination.

Her dialogue references she had a bit of divine insight and clarity that Theodora was a traitor. It's not beyond possibility that it was a literal miracle granted by the Emperor to set the plot of the game into motion (something the Emperor's miracles do often). Considering he also grants us one shortly after in the trial by fire, it does look like Big E was watching the events on the ship unfold with interest.

Also, Argenta is wracked with guilt the entire time about it. Even if only because of Mort.
Rajil Dec 24, 2023 @ 9:39pm 
a fair trial in the 40k universe is the most hilarious thing I've read.
TaKo Dec 24, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
Originally posted by Alucard:
There is even a scene where you talk with X right in front of sacred Warrant and yet X totally doesn't at all even give a hint of any need to tell you truth etc.
she does actually drop a couple of unintentional hints, or rather the writers do(intentionally), but you'd prolly never catch onto them without meta knowledge

not to say the game did the whole thing well tho
D-Black Catto Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:00pm 
Originally posted by TaKo:
Originally posted by Alucard:
There is even a scene where you talk with X right in front of sacred Warrant and yet X totally doesn't at all even give a hint of any need to tell you truth etc.
she does actually drop a couple of unintentional hints, or rather the writers do(intentionally), but you'd prolly never catch onto them without meta knowledge

not to say the game did the whole thing well tho

theodoras hairstyle literally looks like horns, can't get more obvious then that
Piderman Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:18pm 
Originally posted by TaKo:
she does actually drop a couple of unintentional hints, or rather the writers do(intentionally), but you'd prolly never catch onto them without meta knowledge

not to say the game did the whole thing well tho
On the other hand, there was no real reason for her to keep it as secret. Right after the ship is secured it should have been like "Hey, i caught Theodora being extra heretical and shot her, i wonder what her role was in this."
Last edited by Piderman; Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:18pm
D-Black Catto Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:21pm 
Originally posted by Piderman:
Originally posted by TaKo:
she does actually drop a couple of unintentional hints, or rather the writers do(intentionally), but you'd prolly never catch onto them without meta knowledge

not to say the game did the whole thing well tho
On the other hand, there was no real reason for her to keep it as secret. Right after the ship is secured it should have been like "Hey, i caught Theodora being extra heretical and shot her, i wonder what her role was in this."

it was more like "I caught Theddy holding what I felt was heretical artifact so I shot her and mort and shattered the artifact just trust my word"
Morgian Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:29pm 
The whole thing was bad writing. The killer sees Theodora handling a tiny object across the room and immediately knows that it isn't one of a hundred harmless items, but an evil artefact? Now that is what I call true seeing.
Normally we would call that person a psychopath, lock them up and lose the key, before some more people get shot.

Same with Yrliet. Sees an unnamed item on the wall and immediately concludes that you must be the killer of her people. That is what we call second sight plus, given the number of worlds in WH40k and the number of places something could have come from. Not even to mention that there are many circumstances how someone could have gotten a xeno-artefact without destroying a planet. She must be braindead anyway, as she knows very well that this is Theodora's collection and not yours.
D-Black Catto Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:38pm 
Originally posted by Morgian:
The whole thing was bad writing. The killer sees Theodora handling a tiny object across the room and immediately knows that it isn't one of a hundred harmless items, but an evil artefact? Now that is what I call true seeing.
Normally we would call that person a psychopath, lock them up and lose the key, before some more people get shot.

Same with Yrliet. Sees an unnamed item on the wall and immediately concludes that you must be the killer of her people. That is what we call second sight plus, given the number of worlds in WH40k and the number of places something could have come from. Not even to mention that there are many circumstances how someone could have gotten a xeno-artefact without destroying a planet. She must be braindead anyway, as she knows very well that this is Theodora's collection and not yours.

Yrlet actually addresses that, saying that sins of bloodline are inherited by rogue trader. And she wasn't wrong about theodora destroying her craftworld indirectly.

Also psychopath isn't a thing when you're a sister of battle.

You can call her hot headed, perhaps even foolish to act before thinking, but not a psycho. Such titles are reserved for heretics and lower deck dwellers, not a member of armed forces of Ecclesiarchy.

Just as you wouldn't call Pasqal a nerd.
Last edited by D-Black Catto; Dec 24, 2023 @ 10:38pm
VladK02 Dec 24, 2023 @ 11:17pm 
why would there be reprecussions?

theodora was knee-deep in trying to wake up a ctan shard, was corrupted by chaos, toleratred chaos cults on her worlds, and her ship is run like a slave ship, with actual slave clans, instead of professionally.

heretic is an understatment.
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