Why aren't there repercussion for Theodora's killer

[aramintai]

Aside from the reveal in chapter 3, which I'm not sure would have even happened if a certain companion wasn't taken to party at the start of said chapter, nothing ever comes out of it. No talking about it, no trial, no nothing. Is it a bug or a narrative oversight?

[ChompyRiley]

We don't talk about Bruno.

[jonoliveira12]

Because she did what she should.

[glenn3e]

Theodora is a non-voiced NPC, therefore unimportant.

[Mack]

because theodora was a heretic, and because the new ruler doesn't care, and neither does the inquisition.

only a handful of people would actually dare to bring it up, and those few are the same people who have loyalty to the dynasty rather than the individual.

[Stranger]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Because she did what she should.

This is it right here. You can execute her or absolve her as soon as you learn about it. You're a Rogue Trader, she is yours to dispense justice with as you wish, You don't need a trial, you have an admission of guilty.

And if you don't take her and don't find out you don't get to act on the information you don't possess. Don't see a problem here.

[I'm A Distraction!]

Originally posted by Mack:

because theodora was a heretic, and because the new ruler doesn't care, and neither does the inquisition.

only a handful of people would actually dare to bring it up, and those few are the same people who have loyalty to the dynasty rather than the individual.

I feel like there should be a more even handed approach, but that's because at that point in the story Theodora's guilt is unconfirmed except by circumstantial evidence (possession of a warp artefact) and a Chaos Space Marine (who isn't exactly likely to be a truthful source), although Heinrix seems to think the statement by the Traitor doesn't leave any doubt.

It could be just as likely that Theodora discovered the lens from Kunrad's agents and was examining it... Buuuuut then why would she have retreated to her room to look at it in the middle of an uprising. Well, she probably did the right thing morally, but not legally. :)

[aramintai]

Originally posted by Mack:

because theodora was a heretic, and because the new ruler doesn't care, and neither does the inquisition.

only a handful of people would actually dare to bring it up, and those few are the same people who have loyalty to the dynasty rather than the individual.

But she was a very important person to the region and a critical main story character from whom all the other plot points began. Not only rumors about her supposed herecy weren't investigated by law and trial, her murderer is also walking scott free while RT empire's subjects are plotting sedicious plots thinking it's RT who's murdered her.

[aramintai]

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

Originally posted by Mack:

because theodora was a heretic, and because the new ruler doesn't care, and neither does the inquisition.

only a handful of people would actually dare to bring it up, and those few are the same people who have loyalty to the dynasty rather than the individual.

I feel like there should be a more even handed approach, but that's because at that point in the story Theodora's guilt is unconfirmed except by circumstantial evidence (possession of a warp artefact) and a Chaos Space Marine (who isn't exactly likely to be a truthful source), although Heinrix seems to think the statement by the Traitor doesn't leave any doubt.

It could be just as likely that Theodora discovered the lens from Kunrad's agents and was examining it... Buuuuut then why would she have retreated to her room to look at it in the middle of an uprising. Well, she probably did the right thing morally, but not legally. :)

I agree. It's just inconsistent writing, we have trials about mundane things, but Emperor forbid we be fair on all levels and investigate a Rogue Trader and her murderer to stop the rumor mill that begets sedition, like in Blood Ties quest.
Personally, I think it's either a bug or a giant narrative oversight.

[Mack]

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

Originally posted by Mack:

because theodora was a heretic, and because the new ruler doesn't care, and neither does the inquisition.

only a handful of people would actually dare to bring it up, and those few are the same people who have loyalty to the dynasty rather than the individual.

circumstantial evidence (possession of a warp artefact)

possession of a warp artefact is definitive evidence for the killer in the situation they found themselves in.

[Alucard]

It's another dumbed down plotline in game, showing probably that it was rushed decision to make X a killer. That story part is just killed by devs. It goes like that:

1. We meet X on totally different part of the ship. We know there are only two ways to get to Theodora rooms - bridge (which was obviously out of question as it's where finale happens) and hidden elevator which only Albi knows and shows us). How X got there and then got to other side and then got to us through blowing up the wall all in very short time? "By being off screen for some time".

2. We see dead Theodora, questions rises, who is murderer, why, shards are the clue. There is someone sinister on board? Is there a traitor?

3. Game ignores the murderer just straight up Act 1, Act 2. There is even a scene where you talk with X right in front of sacred Warrant and yet X totally doesn't at all even give a hint of any need to tell you truth etc. In front of a Emp blood.

4. Act 3 you walk down the street in one of the worst places in WH40k and suddenly "Hey, I have to tell you something. Yes, this is totally best moment. I killed Theodora becasue she has evil thing in hand and btw. sorry for Arch-Militant. Heh, well, yeah, that's the end of that trope!"

5. And it's absolutely anti-climactic, also becasue we all know that this is THE ONLY PERSON ON SHIP who wouldn't have any malicious intents or any hidden motive whatsoever. So the only think we can say (unless you are Heretic) is "Sure, you did what you had to do".

The whole "murder mystery" is a one big wasted plotline and reveal is really just dropping the ball by Owlcat.

The whole 1-5 points would be just we walking in Prologue to Theodora rooms and seeing X after the fact. It would be the same becasue X can't do evil, so there is no sense to prolong that "mystery". We would say the same thing on spot "You did what you had to do X" becasue X is what X is. There is ZERO point of that plotline to be revealed in Act 3.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

Originally posted by Mack:

because theodora was a heretic, and because the new ruler doesn't care, and neither does the inquisition.

only a handful of people would actually dare to bring it up, and those few are the same people who have loyalty to the dynasty rather than the individual.

I feel like there should be a more even handed approach, but that's because at that point in the story Theodora's guilt is unconfirmed except by circumstantial evidence (possession of a warp artefact) and a Chaos Space Marine (who isn't exactly likely to be a truthful source), although Heinrix seems to think the statement by the Traitor doesn't leave any doubt.

It could be just as likely that Theodora discovered the lens from Kunrad's agents and was examining it... Buuuuut then why would she have retreated to her room to look at it in the middle of an uprising. Well, she probably did the right thing morally, but not legally. :)

No, she was just corrupted by the Ruinous Powers.
Standard Chaos operational method, dangle the carrot in front of the stick, and convince the fool that no matter what sacrifices you go through, you are justified in the end, and you were actually a good person, even though you slaughtered a billion peasants in a ritual circle, because you are only really doing it for the best outcome possible for everybody else.

[aramintai]

Originally posted by Alucard:

The whole "murder mystery" is a one big wasted plotline and reveal is really just dropping the ball by Owlcat.

Yea, very disappointing. No grand conspiracy, just a spur of the moment. They might as well could have let any rando do it.

[aramintai]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

Originally posted by I'm A Distraction!:

I feel like there should be a more even handed approach, but that's because at that point in the story Theodora's guilt is unconfirmed except by circumstantial evidence (possession of a warp artefact) and a Chaos Space Marine (who isn't exactly likely to be a truthful source), although Heinrix seems to think the statement by the Traitor doesn't leave any doubt.

It could be just as likely that Theodora discovered the lens from Kunrad's agents and was examining it... Buuuuut then why would she have retreated to her room to look at it in the middle of an uprising. Well, she probably did the right thing morally, but not legally. :)

No, she was just corrupted by the Ruinous Powers.
Standard Chaos operational method, dangle the carrot in front of the stick, and convince the fool that no matter what sacrifices you go through, you are justified in the end, and you were actually a good person, even though you slaughtered a billion peasants in a ritual circle, because you are only really doing it for the best outcome possible for everybody else.

Why wasn't she on trial postuhumously at the very least? There should definitely have been an investigation since it's a very serious matter and not addressing it just creates more rumors, sedition and wrong opinion about the current RT.

[jonoliveira12]

Originally posted by aramintai:

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

No, she was just corrupted by the Ruinous Powers.
Standard Chaos operational method, dangle the carrot in front of the stick, and convince the fool that no matter what sacrifices you go through, you are justified in the end, and you were actually a good person, even though you slaughtered a billion peasants in a ritual circle, because you are only really doing it for the best outcome possible for everybody else.

Why wasn't she on trial postuhumously at the very least? There should definitely have been an investigation since it's a very serious matter and not addressing it just creates more rumors, sedition and wrong opinion about the current RT.

What is the point?

She is already dead, she was killed for heresy, and there is already a new Rogue Trader around for her dynasty.
What would the trial do? Prove the killer is a noble, diligent servant of the Golden Throne?
Theodora's soul is now in eternal torment in the Warp anyway, not like you can kill her even deader. There is no reason to waste the time and resources.

[aramintai]

Originally posted by jonoliveira12:

She is already dead, she was killed for heresy, and there is already a new Rogue Trader around for her dynasty.
What would the trial do? Prove the killer is a noble, diligent servant of the Golden Throne?
Theodora's soul is now in eternal torment in the Warp anyway, not like you can kill her even deader. There is no reason to waste the time and resources.

The trial would prove whether Theodora sided with Ruinous Powers, will stop bad rumors about the current RT murdering her, will stop rumors glorifying her and Kunrad and ergo stop seditious thoughts of RT's vassals, which we already saw happening in Blood Ties quest. And she was VVIP person and the Empire would likely want to know the official verdict of her death.
And why the prefferential treatment for the killer? Just because it aligns with RT's worldview? But everybody else stood trial for their transgressions, take Yrliet for example.