Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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Skyclaw 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 6:05
Why isn’t Ulfar a Warrior?…
I just started playing, and was super stoked to see a Space Wolf included as one of the companions, as theyre my favorite SM chapter. Now Im really bummed though because Im hearing everyone saying he’s underwhelming. I looked into him and saw he has the Soldier Archetype and I have to ask…WHY?!! Warrior makes far more sense for him, even their standard marines (Grey hunters) are all skilled in close combat and carry chainswords as well as bolters. He’s even shown with an Axe in all his images, so what gives? This honestly feels like a mix up of his archetype. I’m actually really tilted about this cause it feels like an egregious deviation for their lore that would be hard to miss, and even how the character himself was advertised..
最后由 Skyclaw 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 6:11
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Schlumpsha 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 6:11 
His fear of wrath badgers is just too great. They robbed him of his Warrior spirit back in his early childhood. A real tear jerker*.

*Probably.
Zsrai 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 6:25 
Like you said, they use Chainswords as well as Bolters. If they chose Warrior, people who'd think he should be a Soldier because "Space Marines use BOLTERS!!!" would be upset. Kind of a no win there, which is also why he's AM, to use both.

Gameplay wise, I think it's because if he wasn't a Soldier you'd have a base of 4 Warriors and only 1 Soldier for your possible companion pool and they didn't want Argenta to be "necessary" for players.
I'm A Distraction! 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 6:32 
Arch Militant, which I think he is, makes a pretty solid meleer out of a soldier anyway, or so I'm finding out with Cassia.

For lore reasons, certainly a neophyte Space Marine would be a Warrior, but the more experienced ones take up the more ranged heavy roles (in a reverse from standard chapter behaviour, irrc). So Soldier might make more sense for a more gray haired wolf.
oddball 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:15 
Arch militant soldier is easily the most terrifying damage dealer on the board so him being soldier/am means he's an absolutely monstrous combatant.

warrior is less of a damage dealer more of a bullet sponge. It'd feel like a weird pick for a SM to be sitting around taking it when their whole thing is peace thru superior firepower.
Astronimo 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:34 
With warrior to deal damage you are better off with Assassin. arch militant is better for soldier, tbh.
最后由 Astronimo 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:39
JimmysTheBestCop 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:36 
His first arch type doesn't matter as much because of arch militant.

Kinda feel warrior is the worst starting class anyway.
YamEatsYam 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:44 
If you really want him to be a Warrior, you can install a mod that lets you respec him from level 0, among many other quality of life things. https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/1
Mr.Hmm 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:53 
He gotta be Soldier+Arch Militant, it fits him perfectly.
JimmysTheBestCop 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 7:55 
The only thing warrior gets is charge which ulfar gets as space wolf. However it doesn't work right lol

But the big thing warrior gets is assassin. They are by far the best dmg class. However ulfar is to big for the maps and his pixels get stuck everywhere so you can't move him.

But arch militant can make the best tank. Ulfar just stands there next to 10k HP boss. No dmg.

The problem with ulfar is his trash equipment. He can't use gear. So Argenta is always the better burster she can use 3 pieces that buff rate of fire.

I think of you go AoE master tact hits way harder cause they get hundreds of stacks.

I bring ulfar all the time. I use him just to get the enemy stuck. They get stuck on his pixels too.

Honestly I don't need him to dmg. I burst n kick to get cautious stacks. My operative assassin is primary dmg dealer. I think Idira even better then xeno sniper. Cause she makes the best operative since we level her up from 1.

Ulfar can never be good at melee cause his stupid 3d model can't move. So by the time he is in position to attack everyone is dead or further away.

That is the busted thing about ulfar. Like how they drop a companion that can't move cause it glitches every time.

He can't even move out of combat
Khloros 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:02 
That is a good question! Why is he not a warrior?
Total shame he is not a warrior arch militant honestly that would have been more his speed.
His Divine Shadow 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:20 
Because he’s not a Black Templar
jonoliveira12 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:23 
A Space Marine could realistically be any of the classes, they are literally genetically perfected super soldiers.
Even an Operative or Officer would fit in perfectly, since there are SMs that specialize in command or assassination tactics in every single major chapter. The whole point of a Space Marine is that he is the not only the most physically and mentally apt soldier possible, but also the most adaptable and flexible to complete every possible type of mission.
最后由 jonoliveira12 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:24
Khloros 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:40 
引用自 jonoliveira12
A Space Marine could realistically be any of the classes, they are literally genetically perfected super soldiers.
Even an Operative or Officer would fit in perfectly, since there are SMs that specialize in command or assassination tactics in every single major chapter. The whole point of a Space Marine is that he is the not only the most physically and mentally apt soldier possible, but also the most adaptable and flexible to complete every possible type of mission.
Yeah but given how chapters tend to favor given tactics, and space wolves out of all the chapters gave gulliman the middle finger when he told them to break up the legion into chapters, thus retaining most of their original organization.

It would make a lot more sense if the space wolf favored melee, especially when you consider its hinted at that Ulfar has the curse of the wulfin as well.
JimmysTheBestCop 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:42 
They probably didn't make him a warrior cause charge doesn't work he gets stuck lol

They needed a vaulting system. Like climb over that 12 inch crate man you are a space wolf
Skyclaw 2023 年 12 月 22 日 上午 8:44 
引用自 jonoliveira12
A Space Marine could realistically be any of the classes, they are literally genetically perfected super soldiers.
Even an Operative or Officer would fit in perfectly, since there are SMs that specialize in command or assassination tactics in every single major chapter. The whole point of a Space Marine is that he is the not only the most physically and mentally apt soldier possible, but also the most adaptable and flexible to complete every possible type of mission.
We aren’t talking about a typical codex marine though. Space Wolves are famous/infamous for barely holding at all to the codex astartes. Just about every space wolf is an accomplished melee combatant, it’s pretty much built into their culture.
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