any space marine weapons?

[VladK02]

Im in act 4 and a half....

And i only have a bog-standard heavy multi-melta from act 1 fo my space marine. Which is garbage.

Basically, my guy is rolling with trash default loadout. Knife, bolt pistol.

Which is a shame, since a power-armored angel of death is perfect for a marine-sized thunder hammer or something.

Is there any weapon out there to loot?

I saw you can get a better bolter with reputation, but its near the end of the rep ladder and its a bolter, so still trash...

Anything else?

I know what people will say - argenta is better. Yes, but space marine is a LOT tankier. The fight against winterscale and his crew, for example, I only won due to kiting - I could have used a normal tank, if that tank had a normal weapon that is.

[TaKo]

he can use normal heavy weapons

[Nox]

The part I don't understand is why space marines can't use heavy bolters? I get it that regular hands can't hold a massive bolter -

except that the space marine gear doesn't do any more damage than regular gear

Originally posted by TaKo:

he can use normal heavy weapons

Can he? I saw a lot of things that were "no adeptus astarte"

[zpc]

Later in chapter 4 I found some flamers and melee weapons for Space Marines. Only dropped once [by CSM].

Originally posted by Nox:

The part I don't understand is why space marines can't use heavy bolters? I get it that regular hands can't hold a massive bolter -

except that the space marine gear doesn't do any more damage than regular gear

Originally posted by TaKo:

he can use normal heavy weapons

Can he? I saw a lot of things that were "no adeptus astarte"

He can wield heavy bolters - just no heretic ones. He can't wield Bolters like e.g. the one from Argenta.

[[HN]]

I can get having some restriction on SOME stuff the marine can equipe, like not being allowed to pick up the small mele weapons average humans use (even if even that is a bit of a strech, since as far as I know that kind of gear is standard sized), but stuff like bolters should ABSOLUTELY allowed to be used by him.

We don't even have the primaris ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ excuse where everything got magically increased in size to make sure "murin bigg man with biig bigg guns not for puny uman", the first born literally use the same bolters, melta, plasma than your average human (same for the mele weapons tbh).

The restrictions on what he can take feels just weirdly arbitrary for no reason and the fact that it SOMEHOW don't apply to the heavy weapons just underline how arbitrary and nonsensical it is.

Just limite what armor, gloves, boots and helmets he can take if you want, but let him pick up the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weapons.

Originally posted by zpc:

Later in chapter 4 I found some flamers and melee weapons for Space Marines. Only dropped once [by CSM].

I've noticed that you can't even look the SMC bolters (or heavy bolters) for some reason... Why?!
Just slap an heretic requirement on it and that's it.

[[HN]]

Oh yeah, while we are here, am I the only one that has Ulfar bolt pistol react like a 2H weapon and not allowed to shoot in mele?
It severly gimp a character that's already struggling to perfom.

[zpc]

Originally posted by HN:

The restrictions on what he can take feels just weirdly arbitrary for no reason and the fact that it SOMEHOW don't apply to the heavy weapons just underline how arbitrary and nonsensical it is.

Just limite what armor, gloves, boots and helmets he can take if you want, but let him pick up the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weapons.

Agreed - it adds a complexity which isn't needed IMHO. Just let Astartes gear be better and be done with it.

Originally posted by HN:

Originally posted by zpc:

Later in chapter 4 I found some flamers and melee weapons for Space Marines. Only dropped once [by CSM].

I've noticed that you can't even look the SMC bolters (or heavy bolters) for some reason... Why?!
Just slap an heretic requirement on it and that's it.

Aye, that would at least be consistent. Or make the first heavy bolter dropped by the CSM in the starport non-heretical. (I'd prefer the latter ^^)

[kithkatul]

Originally posted by HN:

We don't even have the primaris ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ excuse where everything got magically increased in size to make sure "murin bigg man with biig bigg guns not for puny uman", the first born literally use the same bolters, melta, plasma than your average human (same for the mele weapons tbh).

Game mechanics, maybe. Lore-wise they absolutely do not.

[BludThirstyYeti]

Originally posted by VladK02:

Im in act 4 and a half....

And i only have a bog-standard heavy multi-melta from act 1 fo my space marine. Which is garbage.

Basically, my guy is rolling with trash default loadout. Knife, bolt pistol.

Which is a shame, since a power-armored angel of death is perfect for a marine-sized thunder hammer or something.

Is there any weapon out there to loot?

I saw you can get a better bolter with reputation, but its near the end of the rep ladder and its a bolter, so still trash...

Anything else?

I know what people will say - argenta is better. Yes, but space marine is a LOT tankier. The fight against winterscale and his crew, for example, I only won due to kiting - I could have used a normal tank, if that tank had a normal weapon that is.

There is an Astartes Chainsword in the shrieked cash in the pit after arena fight 2 in Chapter 3.

[Saloran]

start of act 4 I have 2 astartes chainswords, one is a unique, a bolt pistol, bolter, melta and flamer

[Vesemir]

There is a better flamer in the end of act 4 hidden behind wall (awareness check, care, you can accidentially fail/begin combat encounter) in the Halls of Prayer, but overall bolters from reputation probably would be the best single-target dps because of burst fire (though due to equipment requirements he can't wield +burst count gloves/cloak so it's pretty limited; argenta is better with bolters etc due to no item restrictions (the +double crit gloves from act 5 make a world of difference)); there was an astarta plasma pistol (average/ok) but I think it's from the reputation trading again.

[Zsrai]

You should get an Astartes Bolter and Chainsword in Act 3, he can use all of the (Imperial) Heavy Weapons too; heavy stubbers, heavy bolters, heavy flamer, etc. I think I got him an Astartes Flamer in early Act 4, then later in Act 4 he can get a few more weapons too, like a special Flamer, Astartes Chainaxes, and another Chainsword or two.

Finally, there are some reputation weapons too, but they are pretty high rep so I don't think you can get them all. Helmets, too.

[SoundsOfNight]

Originally posted by Zsrai:

You should get an Astartes Bolter and Chainsword in Act 3, he can use all of the (Imperial) Heavy Weapons too; heavy stubbers, heavy bolters, heavy flamer, etc. I think I got him an Astartes Flamer in early Act 4, then later in Act 4 he can get a few more weapons too, like a special Flamer, Astartes Chainaxes, and another Chainsword or two.

Finally, there are some reputation weapons too, but they are pretty high rep so I don't think you can get them all. Helmets, too.

Where do you get the Chainaxes? Ice World with all the CSM?

[THAC0]

Originally posted by TaKo:

he can use normal heavy weapons

there are like chain axes, heavy bolters, and a number of other weapons in the game and armor ...