You CAN'T max trade reputations if spreading too wide (only 1 + navy possible)

[zpc]

So here is the situation I found myself in when coming to the point of no return at the end of act 4

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3119155567

I "focused" on Drusians to get the power armor eventually (the feat I gave my rogue trader in act 1 as I didn't knew that I never get it back then) and ... well.. not even close. I'm missing 10 levels of reputation despite building most colony projects in their favour and despite having a mostly docmatic character.

Kind of disappointing - but the lesson seams to be:

• focus on ONE main trading "house" for maxing out
  
• trade spare items in another secondary house (which you never get maxed)
  
• Imperial Navy can always be maxed as it has it's own items (but it's not needed as one can find better items for the ship when doing missions / colony projects)

That second point is best described with an example:
Drusians obviously don't want xeno artefacts or heretic artefacts. Fellowship of the Void take them. But as you pump every other item into Drusians, you can get Fellowship of the Void only so far.

All in all - big letdown. I really wanted those power armors

edit:
I basically pumped everything into the trading system and only kept a few items for my party. (so all those stacks of flak jackets, las guns ... were turned into cargo) I also did all colony projects and all sidequests.

[mayrc]

THat makes alot of sense. IF you could max put all it would be pointless. I think you max the one who fits your convction (roleplay) OR acording to your item needs

[zpc]

Originally posted by mayrc:

THat makes alot of sense. IF you could max put all it would be pointless. I think you max the one who fits your convction (roleplay) OR acording to your item needs

Yeah, a little information about that "BALANCING" would've been nice though - I'd NEVER wasted anything but the scrapes to other traders but the Drusians if I'd knew that beforehand. (because power armor, you know - no other way to get that but maxing out Drusians).

Originally posted by Lur Nen Rue:

Originally posted by zpc:

No onto the final chapter without medkits and grenades. The Emperor protects!

wtf brother?, dont your colony have refillables , warp aroud

Yeah, I could cheese something together I guess. But I ditched that playthrough anyways. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I want my power armor. (without cheating)

Originally posted by corisai:

Originally posted by Lur Nen Rue:

wtf brother?, dont your colony have refillables , warp aroud

Imho easier to save time & sanity and use ToyBox instead.

Yeah, guess that's the only option left for those in the same boat. I won't use ToyBox / mods and instead start my meta-playthrough right away ...

[Lord_WC]

That's good, I don't mind choices and opportunity costs in an RPG.
When you can have everything in a game I always feel like it's lazy design - the devs just padding out content by forcing you to grind.

[zpc]

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

That's good, I don't mind choices and opportunity costs in an RPG.
When you can have everything in a game I always feel like it's lazy design - the devs just padding out content by forcing you to grind.

Without a doubt - but not letting the player know that he can't max anything is a VERY BAD way to introduce those mechanics. I literally dumped my playthrough when I learned that my long term plans (getting powerarmor) aren't achievable anymore because I locked myself out.

Every trading system in cRPGs has this choice & consequence by limiting the amount of money a character can get. So "shopping for the endgame" always was about dancing around the limitations. But in this case you basically can screw up very early in the game and never be able to "afford" ANY high tier item. As it stands now I can't even buy ONE helmet for my Astartes party member because of that. Or said power armor I invested feats into.

[AlexD]

We need an option to arbitrary donate to these organisations, effectively purchasing rep for an excess PF

[Mr.Hmm]

Yeah they gotta adjust this cause not being able to even max out 1 house after you spread the points around is not a good thing at all.

[RobOda]

Yeah, it's a bit extreme.

You get two shops in act 1 and you can unlock everything in both stores, plus max the rep (for the required tiers) there and then.

So you'd think it would be the same as you progressed.

Drusians are ridiculous though, even their colony rep requirements are quite high. You'd think Drusians and AdMech would be priorities for Imperial-leaning characters, but they compete for items so you'll be picking between them anyway.

I think they've overtuned it, same as they did with conviction points, the ceiling is too high.

[Stranger]

So the OP asked me to check out this thread. Here is where I am sitting with factions at the end of Chapter 3.

Progress level: https://postimg.cc/34cgh2bq
Factions level: https://postimg.cc/94kbp3tK

[Lur Nen Rue]

Originally posted by John Rando:

So the OP asked me to check out this thread. Here is where I am sitting with factions at the end of Chapter 3.

Progress level: https://postimg.cc/34cgh2bq
Factions level: https://postimg.cc/94kbp3tK

yeah bro you need at least 110k more to max your highest faction, def not gonna hit it late act 4

[Major Horrigan]

I ve also had trouble getting my chosen character rep to fanatic tbh .. I literally took like 95 percent of all heretic choices and still was short like 25 points by the time the winterhold hunt happened - I wish there was a little more leeway

[RobOda]

Originally posted by Major Horrigan:

I ve also had trouble getting my chosen character rep to fanatic tbh .. I literally took like 95 percent of all heretic choices and still was short like 25 points by the time the winterhold hunt happened - I wish there was a little more leeway

They said on discord they'll revisit this and (maybe) tune it down. I don't know how they didn't give any leeway on this one.

[glenn3e]

Im at near end of act 2. Have put nothing in Kasabalica Mission, 4 in Fellowship and 8 in Explorators. I have 12 in Drussians, and a huge cargo bay of stuff I havent unloaded in any faction yet. Do you think I can maxed out Drussians this way?

[Stranger]

Originally posted by Lur Nen Rue:

Originally posted by John Rando:

So the OP asked me to check out this thread. Here is where I am sitting with factions at the end of Chapter 3.

Progress level: https://postimg.cc/34cgh2bq
Factions level: https://postimg.cc/94kbp3tK

yeah bro you need at least 110k more to max your highest faction, def not gonna hit it late act 4

Oh, lol, I thought it was like 80

[zpc]

Originally posted by John Rando:

So the OP asked me to check out this thread. Here is where I am sitting with factions at the end of Chapter 3.

Progress level: https://postimg.cc/34cgh2bq
Factions level: https://postimg.cc/94kbp3tK

Thanks for adding those! As I mentioned in the other thread - if you find the time do that check again if you are ready to transition to act 5, that would be a great addition as well.

I know there is some combination which will allow maxing out factions - the thing is you can't have all. And if you choose "the wrong ones" (who share the same high yield trading items") you basically miss the chance to max out those.

If you played very thorough in the previous chapters (chapter 2 is the biggest one btw) then you don't have much "content" left which gives the needed reputation.

Meta gaming will help here, but most players won't do that I guess. (and it shouldn't be necessary IMHO)

[Lur Nen Rue]

Originally posted by John Rando:

Oh, lol, I thought it was like 80

yeah kasbalica is pretty stingy, pirate get you most of his vendor just being 120k, but still not maxed out. but you can travel orange warp to fight battle with xenotech reward, blue demons is worse roll just reload

i remember discord player using toybox saying casbalica cap is 170k, dunno gotta play 2nd to find out, or i can just install those but im afraid to break anything not tech savy