Pascal as grand strategist ? How

[Xerkics]

I got pascal built as bounty hunter and I’m not feeling it but it costs 5 profit to respec him now , does anyone use him is grand strategist ? I heard you can get lots of ranged attacks or opportunity with him with grand strategist ? Can someone recommend a good build for that Please?
Thanks.

[Neoz]

Originally posted by Nox:

Originally posted by rorek55:

Also, operative->assassin>soldier-AM

Sweet mother of mercy not even close. Not even a little close.
You clearly do not understand how damage buildup works with AMs

You must not understand operatives/assassin

[Balekai]

Originally posted by HereticRivga:

Originally posted by Balekai:

Give me a link I will check it out. Always open to new stuff. :)

Edit: Especially again since I have two officer in the group. I was trying to play him as melee assassin on unfair but I didn't like his performance at Unfair Space Marine. So I went more CC and debuffing with him (even with my Shield of the Emperor Buffing). lol The traps have so far been nice while Argenta murder hobos everything.

On my phone currently, will link it when I get home tonight.
But if you search crpg bro plasma lord, on YouTube, you'll get there.

The reason it is better is it leans into the tech priest talents that he has, which are unique to him, and they are powerful.
Plus the joint analysis and tactical knowledge means party members get more bonuses.

Try to weave in heavy armour and he becomes simply amazing - worth losing perception for a little strength.

Almighty time to do more than a quick cursory look. Thanks I love unique ability/talent builds! I never thought of Pascal's unique Tech Priest stuff lol :D

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Originally posted by Balekai:

Originally posted by HereticRivga:

On my phone currently, will link it when I get home tonight.
But if you search crpg bro plasma lord, on YouTube, you'll get there.

The reason it is better is it leans into the tech priest talents that he has, which are unique to him, and they are powerful.
Plus the joint analysis and tactical knowledge means party members get more bonuses.

Try to weave in heavy armour and he becomes simply amazing - worth losing perception for a little strength.

Almighty time to do more than a quick cursory look. Thanks I love unique ability/talent builds! I never thought of Pascal's unique Tech Priest stuff lol :D

Sorry forgot to mention possibly the best element of this build.

The strategist goes first in combat as a feature of the class. Pascal is a debuffer.

I fine it less impressive that my debuff that can take down a bosses armour by 100% goes after all my damage dealers.

Makes the first round of combat, which is the most important, much less effective. Now problem solved.

[Balekai]

Originally posted by HereticRivga:

Originally posted by Balekai:

Almighty time to do more than a quick cursory look. Thanks I love unique ability/talent builds! I never thought of Pascal's unique Tech Priest stuff lol :D

Sorry forgot to mention possibly the best element of this build.

The strategist goes first in combat as a feature of the class. Pascal is a debuffer.

I fine it less impressive that my debuff that can take down a bosses armour by 100% goes after all my damage dealers.

Makes the first round of combat, which is the most important, much less effective. Now problem solved.

So you're saying now I might have three Grand Strategists...

I'm seeing a pattern here... Especially with toons with special abilities and talents or Psyker abilities/talents... Hmmm... :D

Edit: Actually possibly 4 very soon. lol

[Balekai]

Came back from running, changed search engines and I think I found it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhioPxLxrAQ

Watching now. :p

[Blackdragon]

Having Pascal as a Grand Strategist has two main advantages:

1) he goes first in combat so he can cast his buffs/debuffs straight away;
2) he has high INT, so will get good bonuses on Combat Tactics zones, stratagems and other GS buffs.

But as others have said, don't limit yourself to only one Grand Strategist. This class uniquely benefits from having two or more of it: because if you have more than one GS, the highest Intelligence or Fellowship score between them all will be used for all GS Zone calculations. So if you make Pascal and Cassia Grand Strategists, your GS bonuses will use Pascal's INT and Cassia's FEL, making them higher than any single character. Also, Strategists share Zones, so several Strategists can buff the same Zone with different Stratagems, allowing you to pile on even more bonuses.

Since this game is basically about stacking bonuses and extra turns, Grand Strategists fit very well into this system.

[Balekai]

Originally posted by Blackdragon:

Having Pascal as a Grand Strategist has two main advantages:

1) he goes first in combat so he can cast his buffs/debuffs straight away;
2) he has high INT, so will get good bonuses on Combat Tactics zones, stratagems and other GS buffs.

But as others have said, don't limit yourself to only one Grand Strategist. This class uniquely benefits from having two or more of it: because if you have more than one GS, the highest Intelligence or Fellowship score between them all will be used for all GS Zone calculations. So if you make Pascal and Cassia Grand Strategists, your GS bonuses will use Pascal's INT and Cassia's FEL, making them higher than any single character. Also, Strategists share Zones, so several Strategists can buff the same Zone with different Stratagems, allowing you to pile on even more bonuses.

Since this game is basically about stacking bonuses and extra turns, Grand Strategists fit very well into this system.

Yep i'm switching after HereticRivga's advice to watch the CRPG Bro video on Pascal. It just fits my party a lot more and I can't believe I missed all those Pascal special talents. i think I was set in my ways from Beta when he didn't have them.

Anyways my reasons similar to what you stated:

- I have two Gstrats already, but both are specced into other things. My MC Sanctic Psyker map wide heal/buffbot doesn't have a lot of room for Strategems and instead benefits from total focus on Word of the Emperor line of powers. Then buffing those psyker powers with Officer passive talent boosts, and limiting Veil degradation from spammy nature of build with Stabilizing Factor + Inscribe Soul + Stable Routes. Cassia is basically going full Navigator with Fellowship almost being a third characteristic priority.

- My MC has super high FELL and good INT, but only needs to rank FELL over the levels until maybe high Exemplar when hitting the final characteristic caps. So having a pure INT based Gstrat actually using GStrat Strategems and buffing them with GStrat talents is near necessary to optimise all the GStratness i'm missing on the other ones.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally posted by Xerkics:

I got pascal built as bounty hunter and I’m not feeling it but it costs 5 profit to respec him now , does anyone use him is grand strategist ? I heard you can get lots of ranged attacks or opportunity with him with grand strategist ? Can someone recommend a good build for that Please?
Thanks.

He is absolutely broken as a bounty hunter, you need to give him the Bounty Hunter Perk called "Savour the Kill", What this does is give him an immediate free turn every time an ally kills one of his marks, im sure you can figure it out but basically what this does is allow him to just throw expoits and other buffs and debuffs all over the place constantly, setup your prey targets on enemies you know your DPS characters can kill quickly.

If you are playing on easier difficulties this might be a waste of time though, im playing on unfair and the debuffs are basically required to be able to hit anything.

[I'm A Distraction!]

Grant Strategist is a bit clunky since you can't rotate the zones, but there's a lot of Int Bonus synergy so I went with it for him. I consider him a bit of a support swing hitter, and he gives his Int Bonus MP to move to a zone of choice that helps my melee officer get into position, while chipping some damage in with plasma and his axe.

[olsongc]

Pasqal is my Plasma Assassin, and can be a pretty at dealing with melee. Yes yes, most Assassin skills are melee focused....but Dance Macabre allows him to have a bit more maneuverability on the battle field.

[Zhein]

Plasma pasqal. Give him the refund on plasma and melta shots, give him an officer heroic ability, watch him shoot every heretic with your plasma until he runs out of AP after 5 or 6 reloads, or until the game bugs out and refuses to allow you to shoot more (Trust me, it will always be the second option)

Or until he has nothing more in his line of sight.

Edit : Damn, how could I forget, get him the perk that gives more %damage anytime he shoots with his plasma. It might no means much but after 48 plasma shots in one turn it starts to get stupid.

[gurugeorge]

I must admit, I tried him with bounty hunter first, but I actually prefer grand strategist - it makes more sense rp-wise and I feel it synergizes better with his debuffing skills, which should really be leaned into in view of his high INT.

[Kel'Ithra]

I have him set up as a defensive Grand Strategist, while My RT Officer/pyro set up as an offensive Grand Strategist. Working pretty well so far.

[Lur Nen Rue]

GS pascal have the ability to sub tank with exploit, focus INT and your second gs should focus FEL, take OPP and wear heavy armour also take talent related to deflection. raise deflection or buff with idira or heinrich

if your party is 2 or 3 operative set up, you can do the spread exploit combo 1st turn to make sure your pascal can eat 11 stacks turn 1 do it on single target as you seen on youtube guide, officer can grant pascal bonus turn to let him eat another armour

he should stand in the frontline to get buffed armor and from talent like personal zone and strategems

while your second gs move around frontline if necessary to kill target dont forget to return it to pascal to better synergy or your main vanguard

with overwhelming stratagems in your rear, they should burst and hit enemy applying -50 balistic and melee making pascal survival easier

unbreakble will is really helpfull in case of grenade spam

that should make him survive round 2 and on on unfair from anything below tier V