Shouldn't the Space Wolf be Iconoclast, and not Dogmatic?

[Karak Sonen]

From all Lore that i know they've been described to not believe that the Emperor is an God, and usually border on being deemed heretical from the way that they act.

From fighting Grey Knights over the lives of Civilians in the Months of Shame to usually not really seeming to care about the imperial cult.

Dogmatic choices seem universally to be about "For the Emperor! Suffer not the Witch/Xeno/Heretic to live!" where as Iconoclast choices are usually in favor of the common man, which seems far more in line with what we know about Space Wolf behavior when it comes to the common people.

Edit: Talking to him points all the above out, which is odd that they gave him dogmatic traits.

[Steppenrazor]

Originally posted by Zagin:

you know space marines have like no sexual urge even Emperor's Children who feel to "she who thirsts" dont realy fulfill there pleasures that way

the key word being "that way"

only the gods know what other ways they are fulling that urge...

*shudder*

[Zagin]

they might have somthing to piss out but they have no concept of sex

[Zagin]

Originally posted by Steppenrazor:

Originally posted by Zagin:

you know space marines have like no sexual urge even Emperor's Children who feel to "she who thirsts" dont realy fulfill there pleasures that way

the key word being "that way"

only the gods know what other ways they are fulling that urge...

*shudder*

i hear putting cake in a condom is a way to get a suger high

im goona make that an Emperor's Children meme

[Zagin]

Originally posted by Daliena:

Originally posted by Zagin:

i think its funny when ppl talk bought orks raping and pillaging its fun to let them know the mushroom men have no mushroom heads so its kinda just pillage pillage

I dunno, in one of the Cain novels, a Guards(wo)man describes sneaking up on an Ork as it was taking a piss. So apparently they at least have something to do so with.

let me know what noval

[Steppenrazor]

Originally posted by Zagin:

Originally posted by Steppenrazor:

the key word being "that way"

only the gods know what other ways they are fulling that urge...

*shudder*

i hear putting cake in a condom is a way to get a suger high

TMI? er.. dont ask dont tell? pick one. i'd do a to far meme but i'd just rather forget this ever happened.

[Zagin]

Originally posted by madison:

Originally posted by Zagin:

i think its funny when ppl talk bought orks raping and pillaging its fun to let them know the mushroom men have no mushroom heads so its kinda just pillage pillage

It's a mushroom and two spores. They urinate. It can become a functioning sexual organ in the extremely rare (IE: no canon examples exist that I am aware of, other than that it's explicitly stated to be possible) event that they become corrupted by Slaanesh.

and since when could orcs become chaos corrupted weres this lore coming from ? i must know

[Zagin]

now i gota do alota reserch chaos corrupted orcs??? and orcs with sexual urges???

now i know Korne keeps some orcs on a demon planet becues there fun to fight with and the orcs stay becues well its a good fight but as far as being corrupted ? not in 40k maby fantasy

[Nox]

Here's the thing people miss about the warhammer alignment lore - it's lawful vs chaotic, not good vs evil.

Ulfar is Lawful Good. There are plenty of Lawful Neutral and Lawful Evil people in the Empire. Hell it's pretty easy to make the argument that the Empire more resembles the Empire in star wars than anything else.

Regardless of his good vs evil, he's squarely on the side of the law.

[Zagin]

ahh so chaos corrupted orcs was retconed along time ago as they can only ever belive in gork and mork chaos can affect them chaos just cant use them in eny way they "could control" other then starting a WARGH!!! that would just as soon fight chaos as eny thing else around

[Zagin]

Originally posted by Nox:

Here's the thing people miss about the warhammer alignment lore - it's lawful vs chaotic, not good vs evil.

Ulfar is Lawful Good. There are plenty of Lawful Neutral and Lawful Evil people in the Empire. Hell it's pretty easy to make the argument that the Empire more resembles the Empire in star wars than anything else.

Regardless of his good vs evil, he's squarely on the side of the law.

i feel its mans bureaucratic nightmare struggling with diffrent shades of grey aginst Evil
now that Guliman is back and sits apone the throne as Grand Marshal maby somthing can happen with the lore in another 20 years

[Zagin]

as far as Lawful goes the EMP was ok with the nightlords doing what they did during the crusade. Finding out they had to stop while not getting eny mental health days the whole time , im with them when they went aginst the EMP

[Myth Alric]

If someone says heresy, do you instantly shoot them in the face, or do you ask them why first? If you shoot first, you are dogmatic, if you ask why you are iconoclast. So the question you ask yourself, do the space wolves shoot first or ask questions?

[Daliena]

Originally posted by Myth Alric:

If someone says heresy, do you instantly shoot them in the face, or do you ask them why first? If you shoot first, you are dogmatic, if you ask why you are iconoclast. So the question you ask yourself, do the space wolves shoot first or ask questions?

*Glances at the Months of Shame*

I feel like they might ask a question or two.

[Harukage]

To be honest the whole clash of Space Wolves and Inquisition is the fault of Emil Darkhammer. The famous clown idiot of the Inquisition. I wonder why the guy is still alive, and no one hadn't put a bolt in his skull.
Everyone knows that. Also you do not just go and accuse first founding chapter of anything.

[Daliena]

Originally posted by Harukage:

To be honest the whole clash of Space Wolves and Inquisition is the fault of Emil Darkhammer. The famous clown idiot of the Inquisition. I wonder why the guy is still alive, and no one hadn't put a bolt in his skull.
Everyone knows that. Also you do not just go and accuse first founding chapter of anything.

Huh. Darkhammer being involved with the Months of Shame is a new one to me. I thought it was Ghesmei Kysnaros who was in charge, but now there's some conflicting claims I saw that Darkhammer downgraded the Armageddon suppression from Exterminatus to "mere" purging of the population.

Of course, Exterminatus on a world as vital as Armageddon, after it had been cleared of the worst threats, would've been exceptionally daft anyway..

As for Darkhammer, unfortunately, even the most rabid, wasteful, counter-productive, Imperium-endangering psychopaths tend to thrive in the Inquisition as long as they're Puritans like Darkhammer.

Just look at Fyodor Krazypants- I mean Karamazov.