Private Camille Regias

[Cactus]

On Rykad Minoris, this NPC died during the battle with the chaos cult where you destroy the lens thing. Later on, as I went back to the "Upperway", he was alive and well. But whe I reentered the cult scene to get the dialogue option from the cogitator, he is missing again.
Is this kind of a bug? Is it worth guarding him through the fight with the cultists?

[Telerion]

Keeping him alive is a pain in the arse.
Is it worth it? depends on you.
If he is inoccent and get to the bunker, you can see him again in a later fight.....and yes he is useless.
Its for fluff and you can patt yourselfe on the shoulder, gameplay wise, havent seen much off a difference, besides the mentioned help in a later fight in he will again try to kill himselfe (a true born guardsmen he is).
If you keep him alive again, you get a conversation (one or two lines from him) and thats it.

TLDR:
No, it is not worth it to keep him alive, let him do his duty and die for the emperor.

[The Binary Son]

He didn't die for me but he did disappear after the fight and reappear when we left the warehouse so I think it might be a bug.

[~ Fabulous ~]

nah he ain't important

[Cactus]

Ok thx guys

[Sleepy]

he is a traitor, admitted it right before I xxxx him

[RobOda]

Originally posted by Sleepy:

he is a traitor, admitted it right before I xxxx him

It depends on when you visit the planet.

If you visit it early, he's a loyalist.

If you visit it last, he's a/been replaced traitor.

There's a few other changes by order as well;

Early: You can use the crane machine to break into the fuel depot for resources.
Late: The fuel depot has been ransacked by the cultists, so you get nothing except the items in the safe.

Early: The AA battery commander is still sane and is at odds with the cultists, you can use some dialogue with her.

Late: The AA Battery commander has had her eyes burnt out to make an example out of her, and you can't do any dialogue beyond killing everyone.

The reactivity of chapter 1 is very good IMO.

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by RobOda:

The reactivity of chapter 1 is very good IMO.

Very true. Its amazing how different the prison played out when I did it first over doing it second. Same with the Navigator place. Reminded me a bit of Mass Effect 1 if you saved rescuing Liara for the last stop instead of the first. But more gruesome.

[jonoliveira12]

If you pass the skill checks, he is a heretic, so you may aswell just kill him yourself.

[JustMonika]

Awe crap. I went to the planet last and made every effort to save him.

Guess I should have listened to the inquisition more. There is no innocence, only degrees of guilt...

[Ash]

It's funny that even if you arrive on Rykad Minoris first, when you use Pasqual's Machine Spirit Communion on him, he will get debuff instead of buff. Also if he dies in the fight with cultists, your party will gain momentum and combat log will say "Enemy died".

Edit: he actually managed to finish off a Blue Horror and melt a cultist in the sewers before dying, so either poor guy was innocent or it was VERY intricate Tzeentch scheme.

[Pixie1001]

Omg, I felt terrible about executing him when I found the notes in the lens room detailing how they really did hack the vox channels, and manage to kill everyone BUT him t.t

[KaMiKaZe]

they guy you execute is not Camille Regias but a heretic imposter who infiltrated the guard and took his place. pretty sure he said something along those lines before he bit the dust

[Pixie1001]

Originally posted by KaMiKaZe:

they guy you execute is not Camille Regias but a heretic imposter who infiltrated the guard and took his place. pretty sure he said something along those lines before he bit the dust

I might've misread the logs, but I'm pretty sure he only praises Aurora in his last moments because he realises the prestigious rogue trader all of his friends died trying to protect is actually an enormous ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and that Aurora actually did kinda have a point afterall.

I think that's a big theme of the game though - being paranoid and over cautious is certainly safer, but it's also very much what made the setting such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to be in the first place.

[Red Star, Blood Moon]

Originally posted by RobOda:

Originally posted by Sleepy:

he is a traitor, admitted it right before I xxxx him

It depends on when you visit the planet.

If you visit it early, he's a loyalist.

If you visit it last, he's a/been replaced traitor.

There's a few other changes by order as well;

Early: You can use the crane machine to break into the fuel depot for resources.
Late: The fuel depot has been ransacked by the cultists, so you get nothing except the items in the safe.

Early: The AA battery commander is still sane and is at odds with the cultists, you can use some dialogue with her.

Late: The AA Battery commander has had her eyes burnt out to make an example out of her, and you can't do any dialogue beyond killing everyone.

The reactivity of chapter 1 is very good IMO.

That must be why the dialogue seems bugged for me. I have criminal background and it told me, after I aim weapon at him and tell him his story is suspicious, he starts mumbling how he's inexperienced and nervous, the dialogue makes it CLEAR that he's a traitor. Cassie tells me straight out he is lying. I literally only let him live because I took dialogue option 1. [size up private] and it says
>In your FORMER LIFE, your ability to tell a soldier from a rat often meant the difference between life or death. The private is a poor actor--you know he is not trying to trick you.

Emphasis, NOT. So I went with my Crime Lord past gut instinct and intuition, despite the fact every piece of evidence was saying he was clearly a rat. He proceeds leading me into an ambush.

So is this straight up bugged from what should be the real guy, that got mixed up with me visiting Rykad Minoris second? Or did the writers literally just forget to redo the lines? I just reloaded and tried executing him, and he said something about Aurora and the Final Dawn.

You know this really irritates the ♥♥♥♥ out of me I'm going to have to erase those save files and just do it over and headcanon it that the thing never said that because this is just profoundly stupid. I basically let a filthy rat live who I knew hands down was a rat because of a typo. It should read you KNOW HE IS TRYING TO TRICK YOU if you got to Rykhad Minoris second. I did this planet last. I think it's bugged because I imagine it says that if you get to the rebelling planet first, when I got to this planet last. I already visited both Eurac V and the prison planet before coming here.

Originally posted by Pixie1001:

Originally posted by KaMiKaZe:

they guy you execute is not Camille Regias but a heretic imposter who infiltrated the guard and took his place. pretty sure he said something along those lines before he bit the dust

I might've misread the logs, but I'm pretty sure he only praises Aurora in his last moments because he realises the prestigious rogue trader all of his friends died trying to protect is actually an enormous ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and that Aurora actually did kinda have a point afterall.

I think that's a big theme of the game though - being paranoid and over cautious is certainly safer, but it's also very much what made the setting such a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to be in the first place.

No the guy is a piece of ♥♥♥♥, I knowing full well he was lying literally went with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ typo because the dialogue typo said, after every damn thing including the freaking psychic told me not to trust him, that dialogue said for me to trust him and so I trusted my gut. Which I suppose is some sort of meta commentary on gut instinct and trying to trust your own intuition against salient fact.

When I followed him he literally turns around says something for Aurora and starts shooting at me. I burned the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ to death. LIke he straight up joins the rebels and shoots at you if you let him live at least if you went to the planet last.

Sorry this one stupid word being off, NOT, is incredibly irritating to me right now. Probably because it's late and I have to replay it over.

[Red Star, Blood Moon]

Yeah the exact dialogue he gives is "You have arrived at your final destination. And now you will die! For aurora and the final dawn!"

I have to reload this ♥♥♥♥ there's no way my crimelord is going to ignore everyone else and MY gut instinct telling me he's clearly a traitor and the devs clearly were telegraphiing that he is a traitor only to have some stupid missed dialogue or bug get me ambushed. This is the same character that was suspicious of Voitvir from early on.

The only annoying thing is I enjoyed burning him to death. Like I specifically spared him in turn order until I could use a flamethrower with Argenta, and this way sadly will end up with him being mercifully shot and he didn't deserve that. He absolutely deserved a most fiery and painful death.

Originally posted by Ash:

It's funny that even if you arrive on Rykad Minoris first, when you use Pasqual's Machine Spirit Communion on him, he will get debuff instead of buff. Also if he dies in the fight with cultists, your party will gain momentum and combat log will say "Enemy died".

Edit: he actually managed to finish off a Blue Horror and melt a cultist in the sewers before dying, so either poor guy was innocent or it was VERY intricate Tzeentch scheme.

I think that they were just weirdly sloppy with this, which makes me think now what bugs and missed dialogue branches there are later as this is in one of the very first areas of the very first act. Saying that doesn't surprise me, I think they just missed cleaning up the story and he was meant to be a loyalist if you got there first, and was designed to be replaced by traitors if you got there last. So they didn't tidy up things from the dialogue to the log.