How the hell do you beat Commissar in Act 3?

[badger vortex]

As per title, I only have Yrilet (with no armour and splinter rifle from loot), Abelard and my MC. Now I did pick up a few Grenades in this chapter which do good damage but there's just too many enemies spread about and you get shot from all angles. I didn't conveniently have some gear stored in cargo from previous chapter before you suggest that.

I did read some walkthroughs and I'm supposed to have Sister Argenta, but she is nowhere to be found. Regardless this fight just seems way over tuned - is there something I'm missing to this fight?

[DOOM THE PRIME EVIL]

you need to find the rest of you team before doing that mission

[zpc]

The most important thing about Act 3: only those team members which were with you on the ship when you were captured are accessible (quite logical: your team gets kidnapped, you have to find them / free them again).

So if "some guide somewhere" mentions Sister Argenta, then the author of the guide had her in his party...

About Commissar - I didn't choose to attack him and fought the big snake instead. But you should have some okay-ish gear from the Pit (the big snake tells you to look in the garbage container for weapons). My MC got a heavy stubber from there, everything else was a breeze then because I could just mow down everything with hails of bullets.

[badger vortex]

Originally posted by DOOM THE PRIME EVIL:

you need to find the rest of you team before doing that mission

Nope, you can only get the other characters after this and the 1st arena fight, you can't enter the Arena at this stage

Originally posted by zpc:

About Commissar - I didn't choose to attack him and fought the big snake instead. But you should have some okay-ish gear from the Pit (the big snake tells you to look in the garbage container for weapons). My MC got a heavy stubber from there, everything else was a breeze then because I could just mow down everything with hails of bullets. :lunar2019grinningpig:

Fighting the snake is a much easier choice/fight, I'm struggling with this one though I did find those weapons too

[F-Man]

Argenta is in the same map as when you first meet the commissar.
Look around more. Kill more bystanders in the chasm (the streets) and explore places again after some story has happend. you will find your crew little by little.

[zpc]

Originally posted by badger vortex:

Originally posted by DOOM THE PRIME EVIL:

you need to find the rest of you team before doing that mission

Nope, you can only get the other characters after this and the 1st arena fight, you can't enter the Arena at this stage

Originally posted by zpc:

About Commissar - I didn't choose to attack him and fought the big snake instead. But you should have some okay-ish gear from the Pit (the big snake tells you to look in the garbage container for weapons). My MC got a heavy stubber from there, everything else was a breeze then because I could just mow down everything with hails of bullets.

Fighting the snake is a much easier choice/fight, I'm struggling with this one though I did find those weapons too

So if you are talking about fighting the Commissar AFTER the first arena fight - then I suggest to grab your gear and - more important - the Space Marine companion from the Anatomical Opera.

[KyuuMann]

I didn't fight the commi, but I did fight malice with argenta, myself and elf waifu. What I did was give myself and elf waifu a bunch of grenades to take care of the laypersons, while argenta with flamer and knife in had killed malice and everyone else

[badger vortex]

Originally posted by zpc:

So if you are talking about fighting the Commissar AFTER the first arena fight - then I suggest to grab your gear and - more important - the Space Marine companion from the Anatomical Opera.

No I can't enter the Arena yet, I have to bring the Commissar's head to Malice THEN I am sent to the first Arena fight, it isn't accessible otherwise

[Daliena]

Originally posted by badger vortex:

Originally posted by zpc:

So if you are talking about fighting the Commissar AFTER the first arena fight - then I suggest to grab your gear and - more important - the Space Marine companion from the Anatomical Opera.

No I can't enter the Arena yet, I have to bring the Commissar's head to Malice THEN I am sent to the first Arena fight, it isn't accessible otherwise

You can flip it around and go beat up Malice for the Commissar instead. He'll even show up with some mates after a turn or two to come help you

Just bear in mind he'll appear from the entrance, while you'll likely be close to Malice since you had to start the conversation there, so it'll take them a bit to reach you and try to help.

[zpc]

Originally posted by badger vortex:

Originally posted by zpc:

So if you are talking about fighting the Commissar AFTER the first arena fight - then I suggest to grab your gear and - more important - the Space Marine companion from the Anatomical Opera.

No I can't enter the Arena yet, I have to bring the Commissar's head to Malice THEN I am sent to the first Arena fight, it isn't accessible otherwise

Okay, now I'm super puzzeled because you wrote about fighting the snake is easier.

Anyway - the first fight with only 2 party members should be doable. What I find very strange is that you are left with Yrilet (I got here only after visiting the Opera). But it can very well depend on all the other companions you had in act 2 before being captured.

If you can't make it through the fight and / or don't want to reduce the difficulty then I'd suggest going back to Act 2 and make sure you have Argenta with you. Yrilet is a nice-to-have-sniper, but surely no companion I'd use as pillar of my party (and having only 2 crew members puts more weight on each of them). Having said that - Abelard should be able to handle the fight alone as well - rushing things with melee fighters works most of the time :D (especially ranged fighters)

[badger vortex]

Originally posted by Daliena:

You can flip it around and go beat up Malice for the Commissar instead. He'll even show up with some mates after a turn or two to come help you

Just bear in mind he'll appear from the entrance, while you'll likely be close to Malice since you had to start the conversation there, so it'll take them a bit to reach you and try to help.

Yes I'm aware I can choose to flip the deal, but I specifically wanted to go about it his way and help out Malice. It seems as though no one else has done this fight I'm doing where you attack him straight away

Originally posted by zpc:

Okay, now I'm super puzzeled because you wrote about fighting the snake is easier.

Anyway - the first fight with only 2 party members should be doable. What I find very strange is that you are left with Yrilet (I got here only after visiting the Opera). But it can very well depend on all the other companions you had in act 2 before being captured.

If you can't make it through the fight and / or don't want to reduce the difficulty then I'd suggest going back to Act 2 and make sure you have Argenta with you. Yrilet is a nice-to-have-sniper, but surely no companion I'd use as pillar of my party (and having only 2 crew members puts more weight on each of them). Having said that - Abelard should be able to handle the fight alone as well - rushing things with melee fighters works most of the time :D (especially ranged fighters)

It is a lot easier I did it this other way after repeating the Commissar fight multiple times with no luck, so I created a separate save to see what the other option was like, but I would rather not take that path in this playrthrough.

I'm not talking about "the first fight" as in the 1st Arena fight, which is no problem, I'm specifically talking about attacking the Commissar when you first meet him and giving his head to Malice after (who then sends you to the Arena)

My MC and Abelard are both melee but they can only kill so many chars and then get overwhelmed with gunfire from all directions. Have you actually done this fight yourself?

[zpc]

Originally posted by badger vortex:

My MC and Abelard are both melee but they can only kill so many chars and then get overwhelmed with gunfire from all directions. Have you actually done this fight yourself?

Of course - but then again I had my core team with me. Abelard being my heavy hitter with a claymore, Argenta having a awesome flamer pistol (unique weapon "The Exploder") and my main character being a Soldier/Arch-Militant built for mowing down both priority targets and mob reinforcements with heavy stubbers.

I'd sure have winced a few times if being forced to do that with weakened Abelard & suboptimal equipped Yrilet like it is the case for your playthrough.

[Glimmer]

This fight is not winnable, straight up. Cannot be done with the wrong party comp. I have Yrliet and Argent, and Yrliet cannot equip a single weapon because Owlcat did not think to add an Aeldari weapon before the fight. Inexcusable.

[KyuuMann]

Originally posted by Glimmer:

This fight is not winnable, straight up. Cannot be done with the wrong party comp. I have Yrliet and Argent, and Yrliet cannot equip a single weapon because Owlcat did not think to add an Aeldari weapon before the fight. Inexcusable.

Yrliet, and the rogue trader can still use consumables, which makes the fights much easier.

[Glimmer]

Originally posted by KyuuMann:

Originally posted by Glimmer:

This fight is not winnable, straight up. Cannot be done with the wrong party comp. I have Yrliet and Argent, and Yrliet cannot equip a single weapon because Owlcat did not think to add an Aeldari weapon before the fight. Inexcusable.

Yrliet, and the rogue trader can still use consumables, which makes the fights much easier.

You mean like the Stimm? To what end? I have found no grenades; none of these character have the tech-use to access most of the crates. I rely on Pasqal for that.

[KyuuMann]

Originally posted by Glimmer:

Originally posted by KyuuMann:

Yrliet, and the rogue trader can still use consumables, which makes the fights much easier.

You mean like the Stimm? To what end? I have found no grenades; none of these character have the tech-use to access most of the crates. I rely on Pasqal for that.

I found 4 grenades personally. 2 from a dark elf bike when the solatire initially wakes you up, and another two from a chest