Summoned daemons should give loot and xp?

[suejak]

It seems to me that unsanctioned psyker can singlehandedly make fights twice as hard through low-deterioration daemon summons and other problems.

But if summoning a bloodletter into your otherwise easy fight also rewarded you in some small way, I think it would be much more satisfying and slightly easier to justify the risk.

[Balekai]

I swear they do. I just tried to test this last night and I think a spawned Chaos Spawn gave me like 50 experience. And an alternative chapter 1 play through where I fought a few ore daemon spawns (although a different planet order), had about 100-150ish more experience at the exact same point.

I could be wrong though.

[suejak]

Hmm, just checked the log after killing a bloodletter and didn't see any xp from it.

[talemore]

You get xp from many things which is never mentioned like just looking at something. But if you manage to level up by killing one you know for certain. Level up happens during the fight and not after.

[Balekai]

Originally posted by talemore:

You get xp from many things which is never mentioned like just looking at something. But if you manage to level up by killing one you know for certain. Level up happens during the fight and not after.

I should have mentioned that in my post. My test was shoddy because it was just for me. But you have to check manually before and after the kill in say your character window. You will see a mention of it in the dialogue window, but enemy NPCs will give like 1-3 exp on death. So when I was fighting that Chaos Spawn I was quite sure It jumped about 53 exp. The 1-2 garbage enemies didn't give that 50exp jump I don't think. Likely the 3ish exp as per usual.

[suejak]

OK, I hope you guys are right. I'd be perfectly happy with the mechanic if there's XP from the daemon adds.

Does anybody know if opposing daemons will attack each other? For example, if I summon a Khorne daemon into a Tzeentch fight, will they fight each other or just aggro the player?

[tainawoman]

They give a lot of XP. Killing 3 of them before the C1 boss fight and one more in the electric monastery put me at level 15. But I don'y know how they got there. For sure two of them were not there in the beginning of the fight.

[suejak]

Originally posted by tainawoman:

They give a lot of XP. Killing 3 of them before the C1 boss fight and one more in the electric monastery put me at level 15. But I don'y know how they got there. For sure two of them were not there in the beginning of the fight.

What do you mean? You are always at level 16 at the very end of the C1 boss fight. If somebody were at level 17, that would be news.

[tainawoman]

Oh, sorry, I don't read guides.

[Balekai]

Originally posted by tainawoman:

They give a lot of XP. Killing 3 of them before the C1 boss fight and one more in the electric monastery put me at level 15. But I don'y know how they got there. For sure two of them were not there in the beginning of the fight.

I think it has to do with the Veil. I kept my veil in check like below 40% and never got the spawns this game in that fight. My last game i got it high and the two chaos spawns spawned. Now that I think about it... that may be a scripted event that does give xp as opposed to normally spawned ones.

That would explain why I had 100ish xp difference although like I said before there's too many variables to be sure.

Easiest way to check (I would have if I hadn't already saved over the test save form last night):

1. Get to a point where you're about to kill a spawned daemon outside of a boss fight.
2. Check your character sheet experience. Make note of number.
3. Save.
4. Kill daemon
5. See if dameon gave exp by rechecking exp in character sheet, or going back to previous save if you forgot the number to see if there's any difference.

[corisai]

Originally posted by suejak:

What do you mean? You are always at level 16 at the very end of the C1 boss fight. If somebody were at level 17, that would be news.

You can reach lvl 17 (so unlock a second achetype) BEFORE boss fight with Chaos Marine.

to OP: easiest way to check is to use ToyBox and via it - look on XP stat changes right in combat.

[suejak]

Level 16 is the second archetype, not level 17.

Anyway, if anybody is unlocking 2nd archetype before the Act 1 boss and that's 100% due to psyker daemon spawns, then that settles it.

But I doubt that's true because all of my friends unlocked the 2nd archetype immediately after the Act 1 boss and, in my case, I did kill psyker spawns along the way.