Rykad Minoris not getting option to destroy lens

[Trehek]

I found the place where you fight the cultists at the lens, and you get a narrative book section. The first time I went in, I succeeded in my rolls and got options to destroy the lens and to destroy the barrels. But that felt like a boss fight so I reloaded and explored the rest of the area before going in again. But now I no longer get the two additional options, even if I succeed in the rolls. All I get is the option to rush in. Anything I can do about it?

[.//slayer]

Oh wow, I never even got the options for destroying that stuff in the first place. Figured you just have to deal with the lens the hard way.

[I'm A Distraction!]

I don't know the triggers either. My guess is that there's a hidden skill check for both options, but even on a run through where I did get the lore: warp and awareness tests, it still didn't give me an option to do anything but charge. So....

[Liz]

You probably picked "Darkest Hour" origin, family grimoire? I think it's related.

[Trehek]

Originally posted by Liz:

You probably picked "Darkest Hour" origin, family grimoire? I think it's related.

You failed to read the OP, and no I did not. If that was the problem, I wouldn't have gotten the options the first time.

[Valentine Michael Smith]

there's a skill check for both options. I don't remember what, probably awareness and knowledge warp or something

[.//slayer]

Originally posted by Valentine Michael Smith:

there's a skill check for both options. I don't remember what, probably awareness and knowledge warp or something

The thing is, just like the OP, I passed both the skill checks, but never even saw these options in my playthrough.

[Marcos_DS]

Maybe it depends from which side you approach? You can get there from 3 different access points, idk if each of them triggers the storybook section...

[Coldhands]

Same thing happened to me when I quit and started a new character. Only difference (other than my class) was I came in from the back of the room, through the tunnel with all the mines, the second time. First time I went through the door immediately in front of where you drop down from the level above.
Succeeded all visible skill checks both times.

[Trehek]

Originally posted by Valentine Michael Smith:

there's a skill check for both options. I don't remember what, probably awareness and knowledge warp or something

Correct. Awareness and knowledge (warp). I passed both checks.

[Trehek]

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

Maybe it depends from which side you approach? You can get there from 3 different access points, idk if each of them triggers the storybook section...

Yes, you can indeed approach from three sides. Tried them all, and even the side where I got the options the first time didn't give them to me on subsequent attempts despite successful rolls.

[alation13]

Originally posted by Trehek:

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

Maybe it depends from which side you approach? You can get there from 3 different access points, idk if each of them triggers the storybook section...

Yes, you can indeed approach from three sides. Tried them all, and even the side where I got the options the first time didn't give them to me on subsequent attempts despite successful rolls.

There are more than 3 sides to approach from.
There are two different ones from jumping down the pit and at least 2-3 more from different map screens. I can't quite remember and don't have a save to check.

[ivan.usenka]

Originally posted by Trehek:

I found the place where you fight the cultists at the lens, and you get a narrative book section. The first time I went in, I succeeded in my rolls and got options to destroy the lens and to destroy the barrels. But that felt like a boss fight so I reloaded and explored the rest of the area before going in again. But now I no longer get the two additional options, even if I succeed in the rolls. All I get is the option to rush in. Anything I can do about it?

I think it could be tied to that previous fight at the mines, where there was this boss, who was keep respawning at those lenses (sorry, cant remember the name). Back then I investigated those lense and when I was at this Rykad Minoris fight, it gave me an option to destroy lense and line was something like "You remember this thing from the mine boss fight, so you can shoot this thing". Fight was pretty hard to me, so I reloaded like 5 or so times with different angles and it had always gave me the option to shoot the lense.

The other question regarding this fight: what's the point of it? I completed it and destroyed the lense during initial prompt. Are there any short/mid/long term consequences? The loot was meh kind of level and I ddin't notice anything specific yet, and I am on chapter 3 now. Could miss though.

[Trehek]

Originally posted by ivan.usenka:

*SNIP*

No spoilers, please. Rykad Minoris is the very first location I went to. I have no prior in-game knowledge of the lens, other than the shard in Theodora's quarters. The first time I entered the room, I got the option to shoot the lens through a successful knowledge (void) check.

I have no knowledge of any future consequences of the fight, but the room did contain information that the cult was aware of the player personally, and had been warned of our arrival. Also, there was some loot in the room, and clearing the fight cleared up access to the sewers, where further loot and a hidden fight with a herald of Tzeentch could be found, which rewarded additional loot and a trophy. And XP for the whole thing, of course.

[Liz]

Originally posted by Trehek:

Originally posted by Liz:

You probably picked "Darkest Hour" origin, family grimoire? I think it's related.

You failed to read the OP, and no I did not. If that was the problem, I wouldn't have gotten the options the first time.

Perhaps there is a hidden, difficult to pass check. I had this problem on my Noble, with the warp penalty. My other characters had no issues, weird. 

[ivan.usenka]

Originally posted by Trehek:

Originally posted by ivan.usenka:

*SNIP*

No spoilers, please. Rykad Minoris is the very first location I went to. I have no prior in-game knowledge of the lens, other than the shard in Theodora's quarters. The first time I entered the room, I got the option to shoot the lens through a successful knowledge (void) check.

I have no knowledge of any future consequences of the fight, but the room did contain information that the cult was aware of the player personally, and had been warned of our arrival. Also, there was some loot in the room, and clearing the fight cleared up access to the sewers, where further loot and a hidden fight with a herald of Tzeentch could be found, which rewarded additional loot and a trophy. And XP for the whole thing, of course.

Oops, pardon for spoliers. For some reason I thought that you go to that Minoris location closer to a chapter resolutions.