Argenta Arch-Militant with heavy bolter is busted beyond belief.

[Esbon]

Has anyone else tried this build? with the right items and team I'm turning a 9 dmg gun into 167 dmg gun with perfect accuracy and 8 shots and she gets to do this 5 times a turn. Nothing survives her second turn.

[Lightmgl]

Publicado originalmente por You know my name.:

Publicado originalmente por Esbon:

So half as much damage...

I mean idk how much the damage is getting reduced, warp ignores armor so i figured with deflection and armor they werent knocking out 6680.

Best i can do is this per attack so if argenta is beating that then thats even better

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3115084904

Argenta can do multiple times that to a single target, I find Cassia is better for killing mobs.

Get the skill that doubles rate of fire and +30% rate of fire passive and get her to max crit and +dmg on her heavy bolter and she can easily put out multiple thousands of dmg from a burst which she can do 2, 3, 4 times a round depending on how you build her with no ramp up like Cassia's ST damage.

Cassia is still nearly invincible though which has its own benefits.

[Hot Chicken]

Please don't fix this. I just got the hotshot las and even that brutalizes xenos. I'm jazzed to get the heavy bolter soon.

[~ Fabulous ~]

flamethrower are same, I imaging she is smiling while burning the follower of chaos

[corisai]

Anything that rely on several Officers in party is completely broken OP as due to bugs Officers currently provide way more stats then should

Either accept playing with cheats and enjoy or avoid using more then one officer in party.

[RobOda]

Is Arch-Militant supposed to be getting you buffs from switching firing modes though?

[Cutlass Jack]

Publicado originalmente por RobOda:

Is Arch-Militant supposed to be getting you buffs from switching firing modes though?

Single shot to burst? Yes, absolutely. Says so right on the Versatility tooltip.

[RobOda]

Publicado originalmente por Cutlass Jack:

Publicado originalmente por RobOda:

Is Arch-Militant supposed to be getting you buffs from switching firing modes though?

Single shot to burst? Yes, absolutely. Says so right on the Versatility tooltip.

Yeah, sorry I should have explained my thinking.

I get that bit, it's just I thought the core of Arch-Militant is supposed to be a unit that starts stacking buffs from mixing ranged + melee, not just from mixing firing modes.

If it's WAD, I'll get back in my box and shut up lol. :)

(And maybe I'll pick that instead of bounty hunter next time...)

[Cutlass Jack]

Yeah my arch militant mixes melee moves and its fine there too. Like an area swing+charge.

[Aranador]

Yah of course things are "busted". All the people crying about how unfair the game is, are the flipside to this. The game rewards the player that understands the mechanics, and the difficulty system lets the player match the game to their level. It is a game for everyone - well - everyone who is not a heretical xeno mutant psyker..

[Hex: Onii-Chan]

Publicado originalmente por Esbon:

Has anyone else tried this build? with the right items and team I'm turning a 9 dmg gun into 167 dmg gun with perfect accuracy and 8 shots and she gets to do this 5 times a turn. Nothing survives her second turn.

Yes, Out of 16 shots at 80% hit chance she put 16 into the cover infront of the enemy.

[OcelotBoy]

I got the heavy bolter from the Drusian trader and immediately re-specced Argenta to use it. Results are just *chef’s kiss*

[zpc]

Publicado originalmente por OcelotBoy:

I got the heavy bolter from the Drusian trader and immediately re-specced Argenta to use it. Results are just *chef’s kiss*

Indeed - also, try the heavy flamer.

[Marcos_DS]

Publicado originalmente por Hex: Onii-Chan:

Publicado originalmente por Esbon:

Has anyone else tried this build? with the right items and team I'm turning a 9 dmg gun into 167 dmg gun with perfect accuracy and 8 shots and she gets to do this 5 times a turn. Nothing survives her second turn.

Yes, Out of 16 shots at 80% hit chance she put 16 into the cover infront of the enemy.

Thats rapid fire for you. Like the ability says, "all the shots follow random trajectories" - on the one hand this can be cool if you want to really cover the full area. But if you want all bullets to hit a single target, rapid fire is less idea unless the enemy is big enough to catch them anyway. Rapid fire is for clearing areas or "unmissable" big enemies, concentrated fire (or no ability) is for hitting a normal target with all those bullets...

Gotta say, i mostly use concentrated fire now for the arch-mlitant build. The 50+10*BS% damage bonus often means crazy amounts of extra damage - starting with +150%, but with enough versality and buffs that number can go way up. Combined with crit damage bonus from both soldier and vanguard talents, and buffs from other characters, and comraderie from soldier, it can get pretty crazy.
Not to mention the arch-militant talent that adds 2% armor per stack of versality, so if there are surviors, shooting back won't hurt much...^^

[Micromanner]

every build is busted when you have 4 supports and one carry. Not much to fix, the only thing I can think of is that you can only have one officer in your party.

[corisai]

Publicado originalmente por Micromanner:

Not much to fix

Easy:
a) fix few broken Officer talents (that give much higher buffs values then mention in their tooltips).
b) do the same thing as most games do - similar buffs from allies do not stuck (with VERY few exceptions).