Hey Developer, is the space battle against the Drukhari in Odaenathus XI some kind out of season April Fool's?

[AnEvilJoke (get/rekt)]

Just wanting to confirm that as I get murdered in wave 3 all the time besides the fact that my ship is equipped with the best I can get in Act 2, done all other space battles (and won ofc), maxed out Navy reputation + bought everything/used what is usefull.

Yes, I'm using the abilities their trickery lets me use.

And yes, the hull is upgraded (252hp) and repaired.

I also have the escort, which is only usefull to be slaugthered in turn one by the ship that can't reach me anyways.



I mean, I get it: The fight is meant to be hard, the textbox beforehand says as much... Yet with all that described above? The ships hit way harder than their bigger cruiser cousins a system over.

Or might it simply be that I play on Daring dificulty and not on Games Journalist?

[Grim47]

is it the 6 cruisers? it's definitely a sadistic joke put in by some rogue programmer.

[tkis]

Wait until you have to fight 6 of DE light cruisers, each with bomber squadrons at once ;) it can happen in act 2 at one of your dynastic worlds

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by DarkSoul:

is it the 6 cruisers? it's definitely a sadistic joke put in by some rogue programmer.

I actually won that first try. Torpedo control upgrade and 3x torpedos.

[Arkval]

I still cant understand why player cant preview battle like in Wrath.
All void battles are same save-load idiocy just to know what is you up against.
Some of them become a little tolerable with ship skills and gear, but shields upgrades are stupid. Like what the hell is energy damage? Blast damage? Kinetic? What type of damage is that stupid DE super damage burst that looks like rockets? Am i supposed to go into battle, be decimated turn one because enemies ALWAYS have a jump on you for some retarded reason, reload, swap gear and try again?
Dev that designed these battles are clearly incompetent at his job.

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Arkval:

I still cant understand why player cant preview battle like in Wrath.
All void battles are same save-load idiocy just to know what is you up against.
Some of them become a little tolerable with ship skills and gear, but shields upgrades are stupid. Like what the hell is energy damage? Blast damage? Kinetic? What type of damage is that stupid DE super damage burst that looks like rockets? Am i supposed to go into battle, be decimated turn one because enemies ALWAYS have a jump on you for some retarded reason, reload, swap gear and try again?
Dev that designed these battles are clearly incompetent at his job.

No you are supposed to learn how to use all your systems. Upgraded torpedo control is an instakill. turn radius+blink gives you a huge mobility advantage, upgraded shield pulse and vulnerability scan for a second easy kill, then positioning.

As for enemies getting the first move, once you have the escort frigate they almost always target that first. So you'll lose the escort in 1-2 rounds (it respawns each fight though, no cost), but that buys you time to kill 2-3 enemies and reload for another run without taking a scratch.

[Arkval]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

No you are supposed to learn how to use all your systems. Upgraded torpedo control is an instakill. turn radius+blink gives you a huge mobility advantage, upgraded shield pulse and vulnerability scan for a second easy kill, then positioning.

As for enemies getting the first move, once you have the escort frigate they almost always target that first. So you'll lose the escort in 1-2 rounds (it respawns each fight though, no cost), but that buys you time to kill 2-3 enemies and reload for another run without taking a scratch.

Except you have no system upgrades, ship skills, gear and escort ship at the start.
So you try blindly poke at every encounter trying to find easy enough one to level up, saving and loading most of the time.
Devs missed their mark again with the whole "mighty sovereign" setup. Rogue Trader can afford buying pirate ships as mercs en masse, top of the line gear and ship, even few fleets.
Here i feel myself like a beggar, kowtowing to Navis Imperialis trader just to buy a rusty cannon line.

[Mr.Hmm]

Originally posted by Arkval:

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

No you are supposed to learn how to use all your systems. Upgraded torpedo control is an instakill. turn radius+blink gives you a huge mobility advantage, upgraded shield pulse and vulnerability scan for a second easy kill, then positioning.

As for enemies getting the first move, once you have the escort frigate they almost always target that first. So you'll lose the escort in 1-2 rounds (it respawns each fight though, no cost), but that buys you time to kill 2-3 enemies and reload for another run without taking a scratch.

Except you have no system upgrades, ship skills, gear and escort ship at the start.
So you try blindly poke at every encounter trying to find easy enough one to level up, saving and loading most of the time.
Devs missed their mark again with the whole "mighty sovereign" setup. Rogue Trader can afford buying pirate ships as mercs en masse, top of the line gear and ship, even few fleets.
Here i feel myself like a beggar, kowtowing to Navis Imperialis trader just to buy a rusty cannon line.

They just put the Rogue Factor point rewards from the traders too high even as early as rank 2

[aribetdetka]

Kek, why isn't any thread like this called "please help me, I can't win the battle"? Why does everyone write how good they are, but bad developers create insurmountable obstacles for them? Why can't you just admit your helplessness, instead of sarcastic topics?
This battle is completed in 1 miserable round, you just need to destroy both ships on your turn, so they will no longer receive reinforcements and the battle will be won. The dialogue before the battle directly talks about this. That's it, no suffering or overcoming.
Just don’t write now that this is also impossible.

[AnEvilJoke (get/rekt)]

Originally posted by aribetdetka:

Kek, why isn't any thread like this called "please help me, I can't win the battle"? Why does everyone write how good they are, but bad developers create insurmountable obstacles for them? Why can't you just admit your helplessness, instead of sarcastic topics?
This battle is completed in 1 miserable round, you just need to destroy both ships on your turn, so they will no longer receive reinforcements and the battle will be won. The dialogue before the battle directly talks about this. That's it, no suffering or overcoming.
Just don’t write now that this is also impossible.

Simply because every topic that asks for any help these days gets flodded by people like you saying, and I quote:
"Kek, git gud scrub!"

[woops]

rofl dont tell me that Owlcat put another gimmicky battlefield mechanic into the game and it's once again terrible and unbalanced ha

[Arkval]

Originally posted by ftw01:

rofl dont tell me that Owlcat put another gimmicky battlefield mechanic into the game and it's once again terrible and unbalanced ha

They did, and it is uncheesable to my knowledge, like mage generals in Wrath.

[Esbon]

Have you tried torpedoes? I was taking them out two ships at a time.

[Winno 8th Legion]

Originally posted by aribetdetka:

Kek, why isn't any thread like this called "please help me, I can't win the battle"? Why does everyone write how good they are, but bad developers create insurmountable obstacles for them? Why can't you just admit your helplessness, instead of sarcastic topics?
This battle is completed in 1 miserable round, you just need to destroy both ships on your turn, so they will no longer receive reinforcements and the battle will be won. The dialogue before the battle directly talks about this. That's it, no suffering or overcoming.
Just don’t write now that this is also impossible.

this dude plays on the easiest setting, clearly.

[AnEvilJoke (get/rekt)]

Originally posted by winno:

Originally posted by aribetdetka:

Kek, why isn't any thread like this called "please help me, I can't win the battle"? Why does everyone write how good they are, but bad developers create insurmountable obstacles for them? Why can't you just admit your helplessness, instead of sarcastic topics?
This battle is completed in 1 miserable round, you just need to destroy both ships on your turn, so they will no longer receive reinforcements and the battle will be won. The dialogue before the battle directly talks about this. That's it, no suffering or overcoming.
Just don’t write now that this is also impossible.

this dude plays on the easiest setting, clearly.

Yeah, I guessed that too.
Probably still needs cheats to progress.

[Croxio]

Still 11 Turn where there are two dark eldar that spawn and have turn right aways seam impossible. You will get kill. Maybe there stuff to begin first in all turn... I hope