This game is not finished.

[Ciaina]

If I buy a car, I expect it to work.
If this game was a car, it would have missing parts. Like the engine.
Chapter 4 is broken to all hell.
And I SERIOUSLY hope my save file is not bricked.

Events don't starts, game doesn't progress.
This is an UNFINISHED product.

It's not just some minor or cosmetic problem, or a single quest with a problem.
At its base, stuff just doesn't work.

Cute that you are fixing coop and some animations.
Maybe focus your time on the BASICS that make your game work.

This product should have not been released yet. It doesn't lack polish, it has holes in the wall.

[Solid Steel]

Agree, This game needs a lot of polish. And not just superficially.

[Marcos_DS]

Yeah sure, but somewhat buggy releases are normal for Owlcat - but its also normal for them to improve and fix it (if the Pathfinder games are any indication). If its too much for you currently, wait a year and you will have a much better experience. But i'm having a blast despite the bugs. Big thank to the devs of toybox! That tool makes bugs so much more bearable...

[Dextix LT]

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

Yeah sure, but somewhat buggy releases are normal for Owlcat - but its also normal for them to improve and fix it (if the Pathfinder games are any indication). If its too much for you currently, wait a year and you will have a much better experience. But i'm having a blast despite the bugs. Big thank to the devs of toybox! That tool makes bugs so much more bearable...

To call a game that is unplayable past Act 3 "somewhat buggy" is an understatement.

[Mr. Nobody]

Started a new play-through, on the underworld mission quest and one enemy is on the other side of the map and I am stuck in battle-mode. So any person that says this game is finished is smoking something and I want it too. This game is buggy as hell, and the description themselves are not clear half of the time on the abilities, made me give up trying to build my own character. Using best build guides now!!!!! Seriously, this is farcical compared to another title BG3?! So 1000000% in agreement, this game needed another year with the season pass as part of the base game, really only 30 hours extra game-play for the price of 75% the base-game, ridiculous..............................

[dolby]

Originally posted by Ciaina:

If I buy a car, I expect it to work.
If this game was a car, it would have missing parts. Like the engine.

well, games now are like cars, just like used cars... you never know what you gonna get. Could be that a few parts are indeed missing...

The idea is you never buy anything from the guy again and ask for refund...

But rpgs like this are rare so people have no choice but to buy from them again if you want to play games like this that is.

[Megapewpew]

I like owlcats games, but this is the one game of theirs I would love for it to be a smash hit...that said. Yes, this game is a mess, their devops is a disaster, genuinely bad. We can talk about them focusing on X too much or Y too much but it doesnt matter, that isnt the primary problem. Some of the bugs that come through their games, is specifically a result not of simple QA but the fundamental broken workflow of how they code and TEST that new code at it's origination.

imo, the need a philosophical change to how they approach testing and writing code for their game. They clearly are not testing production code to a satisfactory level.

[VersataMeridian]

Welcome to owlcat games. Every Owlcate Game has 4 phases:

Phase 1: Launch + 3 Months. Unimaginable quantity Game breaking bugs. Patches fix Old bugs and Introduce New Bugs in EQUAL Quantity. Game is essentially ALPHA
Phase 2: 3months - 6months: Bugs are vastly reduced but its current "Polish" of bugs = BETA level of other Games
Phase 3: 6months - 1year: Game hits a good level of polish. But even in this state its riddled with bugs that would cave AAA games.
Phase 4: 1+ year: Now the Game becomes the Polished gem its meant to be.

[Grim47]

Going to try and get through 1 playthrough then shelve the game for 1 year for this reason. May the emperor / the dark gods / whoever bless your save file to make through at least one playthrough

[PK_Thunder]

I'd you buy a car you expect it to work.

Because you're paying thirty thousand dollars for a car, and your life is on the line. That's why they seek zero failure rates.

I don't like bugs either, in fact I had a save file totally corrupted today, but the comparison is just invalid.

[YONULBAVO STIPUD]

who asked?

[BoogieMan]

Owlcat gonna owlcat.

[Megapewpew]

Originally posted by PK_Thunder:

I'd you buy a car you expect it to work.

Because you're paying thirty thousand dollars for a car, and your life is on the line. That's why they seek zero failure rates.

I don't like bugs either, in fact I had a save file totally corrupted today, but the comparison is just invalid.

TBH hyperbole is allowed, imo. When you have such a good game structure, but it is rendered "wait a weeks or 2 months to not worry about quest flags breaking your game the more you play" due to backend issues, it can really suck the life out of an otherwise good game.

[Dark]

Originally posted by Mr. Nobody:

Started a new play-through, on the underworld mission quest and one enemy is on the other side of the map and I am stuck in battle-mode. So any person that says this game is finished is smoking something and I want it too. This game is buggy as hell, and the description themselves are not clear half of the time on the abilities, made me give up trying to build my own character. Using best build guides now!!!!! Seriously, this is farcical compared to another title BG3?! So 1000000% in agreement, this game needed another year with the season pass as part of the base game, really only 30 hours extra game-play for the price of 75% the base-game, ridiculous..............................

So 1 bug you described constitutes a "buggy mess"?

I agree with the op for the most part.

I don't like companies getting away with releasing half finished games with the promise of fixing it. However, a little research would of told you Owlcat has a track record of releasing buggy games (that they do fix). Knowing that I still brought the game.

Also this is in a far better state at release than Pathfinder was.

[Aria Athena]

Welcome to Owlcat games, I'll be your guide. You have to wait at least a year if you want a "decent" experience. It will still be riddled with bugged skills and feats, but no gamebreaking bugs. This is actually their best release.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by Aria Athena:

Welcome to Owlcat games, I'll be your guide. You have to wait at least a year if you want a "decent" experience. It will still be riddled with bugged skills and feats, but no gamebreaking bugs. This is actually their best release.

Nah game breaking bugs are definitely there
There a major one in 2
And 4 and 5 is chalk full of progression stopping bug