heresy is way too unrealistic. No way you could get away with it

[VladK02]

During the electro-priest monastery, one of the dialogue lines is...
(heresy +3 or whatever) Back away from the console Aurora, im our new masters' favorite !!!

And Inquisitor's acolyte goes "Interesting choice of words"

Bruh. Thats not an "interesting choice of words". That's a bolt pistol to the temple right then and there. From the inquisitor boy, from the sister, from the not one but TWO psykers that can see literally everything youre doing, like stealing sword shards, making pacts with the warp... What kind of Emperor's servants are you lot?? Im balls-deep in chaos, right in plain sight!

I fully expected to have to kill the inquisitor boy in the temple. But no, he let it go. (At least, for now).

I feel that heresy in the game is too obvious, at least in chapter 1.

The Dogmatic choices of comedic 'execute everything and everyone for any slight whatsoever just because - then execute some more" - thats 40k staple, sure. Thats well done.

But heresy? Meh...

And if the Theodora or whatever, the original captain, was also a heretic - which she was, according to the xenos loot stash in her ship - then why are her (and now mine) companions not heretics?? Irida is just cool with witnessing chaos corruption everywhere and not speaking up? And same with the navigator chick?

[Solomon Kane]

Originally posted by Voodoo:

indeed they do...gw says inquisitors have infinite power and punish whoever they want.

Custodes: “ These men are my bodyguards, their lives forfeit to the guarantee of my physical safety. Of their loyalty to me there shall be no question nor doubt. I, and I alone, shall have the authority to stand in judgement over them. No other commander shall they have in battle nor in service. None shall bar them from me and none shall hamper or stall their mission. So it is decreed! ”

So with that alone your delusional statement becomes false, they CANNOT punish whoever they want and have not infinite power.

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by Solomon Kane:

Originally posted by Voodoo:

indeed they do...gw says inquisitors have infinite power and punish whoever they want.

Custodes: “ These men are my bodyguards, their lives forfeit to the guarantee of my physical safety. Of their loyalty to me there shall be no question nor doubt. I, and I alone, shall have the authority to stand in judgement over them. No other commander shall they have in battle nor in service. None shall bar them from me and none shall hamper or stall their mission. So it is decreed! ”

So with that alone your delusional statement becomes false, they CANNOT punish whoever they want and have not infinite power.

no.

conflict between inquisition and custodes never happened, a testament to custodes loyalty, thus there have been no need for it and these words were never tested.

"‘Why are you here, inquisitor?’ said the Imperial Custodian. Though nominally a question, it was delivered as a command, as if the speaker could countenance no response but acquiescence. The voice was as otherworldly as his physical appearance – deep, measured, betraying no accent but that of the most strenuous refinement of High Gothic. No mortal spoke like that, nor had they done so for millennia.

Crowl held his ground. The aura of extreme violence still made the air electric, and the guardian spear had not yet been powered down.

‘You have my man,’ he said. ‘I look after my own.’

The Custodian considered that for a moment. His helm-face was a piece of artistry beyond anything Crowl had ever witnessed in battle-armour – a tracery of wings rising from a hawk-like vox-guard, enclosing twin jewelled lenses amid swashes of heavy gold. He found himself recalling the Ministorum images of Sanguinius, those adoring frescoes of the Angel himself, and wondered just how mind-alteringly magnificent a living primarch must have been if this were not the pinnacle of human martial splendour.

‘You would come here, then,’ the Custodian said, ‘in defiance of justice, and dare to take him from me.’

So this was the test. For all his long years of service, Crowl was not an excessively proud man. He knew perfectly well the myth-born god before him could end him with a single strike of that guardian spear. Even if it had been in his nature, though, there was no room for dissemblance here. This creature, so the legends went, had been built to perceive the nature of falsehood.

‘He is my man,’ said Crowl again, lifting his chin. ‘You want him, you come through me.’

The Custodian made no move. The halberd’s energy field rippled across the monomolecular edge of the great glaive’s blade, itself a metre long.

‘What are you named?’ the Custodian asked.

‘Erasmus Crowl, the Ordo Hereticus.’"

However we have this depiction from vaults of terra carrion throne,if need be inquisition is prepared to fight even custodes.

Furthermore this quote from emperor was made before inquisition was brought to life, it debunks nothing...

[Innominatam]

Delusional, trying to take that passage out of context.

Fact is you claimed the inquisition is god and can do whatever they want to whoever they want.

Now you are trying to walk it back claiming because there was no conflict, they had no need to order the custo's around.

What a joke you are.

If the inqusition ever tried to attack the Custo's for refusing to comply with their BS orders, that would be HERESY of the highest order and would lead to a mass execution of inquisitors.

DELUSIONAL

[talemore]

Heresy!

[Innominatam]

Furthermore this quote from emperor was made before inquisition was brought to life, it debunks nothing..."

This clown literally just said the inquisition has authority over the Adeptus Custodes.....and dismissed a direct qoute from the Emperor because it blocked his narrative

I....wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

I am amazed at how delusional they are, imagine telling that to the Imperium "well that statement was made while the emperor was alive......so it don't count"

You'd be dead in 3 seconds

[Voodoo]

I never walked anything back.

Originally posted by E.:

Furthermore this quote from emperor was made before inquisition was brought to life, it debunks nothing..."

This clown literally just said the inquisition has authority over the Adeptus Custodes.....and dismissed a direct qoute from the Emperor because it blocked his narrative

I....wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

This quote was said somewhere between m25 and m30, inquisition was created in m32.

When making such statement inquisition was never even conceived so saying that this proves inquisition cant have power over custodes is false.

Matter of fact is that inquisition never waged war on custodes and never even felt the need to do so. Saying that they have or dont have power over custodes was never tested as far as 40k lore is concerned.

[Innominatam]

Originally posted by Voodoo:

I never walked anything back.

Originally posted by E.:

Furthermore this quote from emperor was made before inquisition was brought to life, it debunks nothing..."

This clown literally just said the inquisition has authority over the Adeptus Custodes.....and dismissed a direct qoute from the Emperor because it blocked his narrative

I....wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

This quote was said somewhere between m25 and m30, inquisition was created in m32.

When making such statement inquisition was never even conceived so saying that this proves inquisition cant have power custodes is false.

Matter of fact is that inquisition never waged war on custodes and never even felt the need to do so. Saying that they have or dont have power over custodes was never tested as far 40k lore is concerned.

stop quoting me, I am officially done with your delusional mental self after what you just said, you literally know nothing.

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by E.:

I am amazed at how delusional they are, imagine telling that to the Imperium "well that statement was made while the emperor was alive......so it don't count"

You'd be dead in 3 seconds

How do you think this quote came to life?

“ These men are my bodyguards, their lives forfeit to the guarantee of my physical safety. Of their loyalty to me there shall be no question nor doubt. I, and I alone, shall have the authority to stand in judgement over them. No other commander shall they have in battle nor in service. None shall bar them from me and none shall hamper or stall their mission. So it is decreed! ”

Somebody asked what if custodes every betray the emperor, emperor dispelled their doubts.

But in your mind emperor a murderer who will fly into rage at idea that some of his men might have to be kept in check...


Now everyone else ask yourself this, if emperor was asked what to do if he was gone and custodes started killing people of terra. Would he say no you absolutely cannot stop them if i didnt, or would he say that if such grave circumstances came humanity have the right to defend itself from traitors or maybe he would dismiss the question and assure everyone that he will never be gone and custodes will never turn traitor.

[PureOrionBelt]

Who is putting the bolter into the head? None of your companions would dare to do it, even Heinrix. It would take an Inquisitor or Crusader Leader to have the power over a Rogue Trader in their own worlds and ships. They are literal kings and answer only to the
Inquisitorial order and the High Lords of Terra

[XartaX]

Originally posted by PureOrionBelt:

Who is putting the bolter into the head? None of your companions would dare to do it, even Heinrix. It would take an Inquisitor or Crusader Leader to have the power over a Rogue Trader in their own worlds and ships. They are literal kings and answer only to the
Inquisitorial order and the High Lords of Terra

There are people in your party who already have

Explicit spoiler

Last warning

Argenta shot Theodora for fiddling with a chaos tainted item

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Red_Theory:

I agree that the heretic options are kind of wildly inconsistent and lack nuance and the only reason you can get away with it is because you're a rogue trader. I was hoping for something more along the lines of the radical inquisitors where any means necessary against chaos is still okay or something.

same, I am disappointed

[Hex: Onii-Chan]

I mean, it's the same with Dogmatic, really. Instead of being true to the Faith, you just have to be a complete psychopath who interprets things in the worst way possible. Like, ffs, we're not playing a Black Templar chaplain.

[Moffin Bovin]

Originally posted by E.:

Delusional, trying to take that passage out of context.

Fact is you claimed the inquisition is god and can do whatever they want to whoever they want.

Now you are trying to walk it back claiming because there was no conflict, they had no need to order the custo's around.

What a joke you are.

If the inqusition ever tried to attack the Custo's for refusing to comply with their BS orders, that would be HERESY of the highest order and would lead to a mass execution of inquisitors.

DELUSIONAL

Who's going to carry out that execution? Who do the Custodes have Authority over? Who does the Inquisition have authority over?

That would be a very one sided civil war, with both sides accusing the other of heresy.

The inquisition can't just do whatever it wants because the imperium isn't actually a single monolith. It's multiple groups working together to broker a balance of power. You don't go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ the bed unless you have to.

[XartaX]

Originally posted by Hex: Onii-Chan:

I mean, it's the same with Dogmatic, really. Instead of being true to the Faith, you just have to be a complete psychopath who interprets things in the worst way possible. Like, ffs, we're not playing a Black Templar chaplain.

It's not the same at all. Dogmatic belief is accepted in the Imperium, Heretical is not. If heresy was allowed/normal, there would be nothing wrong with the heretical options. The reason the heretical options are weird is because you shouldn't get away with it.

[badger vortex]

There's a very good reason the Lord Inquisitor is letting you get away with so much "heresy" which he personally explains to you later on