Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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Daryl 2023 年 12 月 10 日 下午 4:22
Which Route did you go? Heretical? Iconoclast? dogmatic?
Which alignment did u guys choose and why?
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Cat 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 1:42 
I'm very curious to see where Dogmatic differs from Iconoclast in the end once people beat the game and start scrubbing through all the options, since it seems so out of character for the universe to allow someone to be so pure and naively good and still come out on top, what's the point in dogmatic at all if Iconoclast is just all upsides and no downsides?
solthusx 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 1:57 
引用自 Leonardo Trapovich
引用自 MOK
Me too, and I see that as a problem. I want to get off this path and get interesting, but the options I'm getting so far aren't really tempting me at all.
Iconoclasm is so intriguing to us players because it is basically "Common sense of the player world.", but it contains stuff that would CONFUSE people in 40k world.
I legit told some npc something along the lines of "I know this world is ♥♥♥♥ but it doesn't have to so i'm going to use my power to improve it a bit." and they went "Huh. Wow. Really? Hell, maybe you are right - we can have a life that isn't utter ♥♥♥♥..."
Or there is an Iconoclast only project that creates a hospice for servitors where they can die in peace. The Mechanicus are utterly confused why would we let lobotomized slaves die in dignity instead of murdering them through work.
But those things are common sense to us, players. We don't live in despair so we have the mindset that lets us break out of it - mindset that 40k setting lacks and could use a lot of to improve itself.

And it actually works, the servitor hospice actually gives your voidship extra hull points due to your active servitors working extra hard to take care of it because they know you'll care for them in turn.
最后由 solthusx 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 2:00
Seswatha 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 2:02 
引用自 Daryl
引用自 Seswatha
If you're going psyker, probably Dogmatic cause https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Eyes+of+Joyeuse

I'm planning to do a Heretic playthrough later with a max veil degradation strategy later if it's viable though.

avoid fextralife.
they are a dubious site which eats ur bandwidth
theres many ppl covering it

Thanks for the tip, didn't know about it. Well, I'll just post the item screenshot then, it exists and does work:
https://imgur.com/a/ZfhQJ71
最后由 Seswatha 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 2:03
Myth Alric 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 2:14 
I ended up starting over and I switched from iconoclast to dogma for my good guy play through. Iconoclast does have a lot of good choices but there are too many questionable ones. I was already dipping dogma fairly often so I decided to instead do mainly dogma but dip into iconoclast when it makes sense.
Iconoclast with a slice of dogmatic. Next run will be the other way around.
G Willikers 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 3:37 
引用自 Megapewpew
Wait, there are other options other then Dogmatic?
BLAM
G Willikers 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 3:39 
Iconoclast with a slice of dogmatic. Next run will be the other way around.

At some point I want to try a dogmatic heretic run. In my personal experience the people who are loudest about scripture are the ones hiding behind it, it would be neat to play someone like that and I appreciate that the game gives us that opportunity
corisai 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 4:11 
Honestly in my first game when I'm trying to roleplay my character - mix of Iconolast and Dogmatic.

Anything related with Warp in 99% cases get a Dogmatic response because hell no, I don't want Dark Gods tentacles in my b@@t :) And just leaving single trace of corruption unpurified could lead to my demise. Chaos is not a joke at all.
Commander & Chief B.O.G 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 4:21 
If nothing else I will probably at least 3 times, I've started with Iconoclast.
There have been decisions already that hint they will come back to bite me in the ass later but that's what a good roleplay game should have.

Not sure If I will go full on only side but it's worth pointing out you get special dialogue options if you're rank is high enough in one of the 3 alignments, so it's worth it trying to stick one path only and sprinkle some other choices where the situation might need a different touch.
最后由 Commander & Chief B.O.G 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 4:22
x_equals_speed 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 4:48 
引用自 Sunricer
I'm very curious to see where Dogmatic differs from Iconoclast in the end once people beat the game and start scrubbing through all the options, since it seems so out of character for the universe to allow someone to be so pure and naively good and still come out on top, what's the point in dogmatic at all if Iconoclast is just all upsides and no downsides?

My prediction is that Iconoclast will make the game harder in places (There are definitely times it involves giving up precious profit factor for no real gain) but that if you finish the game you can still have some kind of a good ending. But we shall see.
Tozobi 2023 年 12 月 15 日 上午 5:02 
引用自 x_equals_speed
引用自 Sunricer
I'm very curious to see where Dogmatic differs from Iconoclast in the end once people beat the game and start scrubbing through all the options, since it seems so out of character for the universe to allow someone to be so pure and naively good and still come out on top, what's the point in dogmatic at all if Iconoclast is just all upsides and no downsides?

My prediction is that Iconoclast will make the game harder in places (There are definitely times it involves giving up precious profit factor for no real gain) but that if you finish the game you can still have some kind of a good ending. But we shall see.

Without spoiling much, there's a couple of colony choices where if you try the iconoclast options even when they are not flagged as such, you may end up with undesirable elements in your colony , of a "purple colour with extra limbs" persuasion.
Shadowfox 2023 年 12 月 15 日 下午 12:24 
引用自 Sunricer
I'm very curious to see where Dogmatic differs from Iconoclast in the end once people beat the game and start scrubbing through all the options, since it seems so out of character for the universe to allow someone to be so pure and naively good and still come out on top, what's the point in dogmatic at all if Iconoclast is just all upsides and no downsides?
were not naively good we know especially as players how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up 40k is (insert chaos skinless space marine birthing scene from that one book)
we however choose to not be part of the problem.
heretics pathers decide to be everyones problem.
Shadowfox 2023 年 12 月 15 日 下午 12:25 
引用自 Tozobi
引用自 x_equals_speed

My prediction is that Iconoclast will make the game harder in places (There are definitely times it involves giving up precious profit factor for no real gain) but that if you finish the game you can still have some kind of a good ending. But we shall see.

Without spoiling much, there's a couple of colony choices where if you try the iconoclast options even when they are not flagged as such, you may end up with undesirable elements in your colony , of a "purple colour with extra limbs" persuasion.
are any of these limbs pincers if so party (chaos edition).
if not someone get the bug sprey
G Willikers 2023 年 12 月 15 日 下午 12:46 
引用自 Shadowfox
引用自 Sunricer
I'm very curious to see where Dogmatic differs from Iconoclast in the end once people beat the game and start scrubbing through all the options, since it seems so out of character for the universe to allow someone to be so pure and naively good and still come out on top, what's the point in dogmatic at all if Iconoclast is just all upsides and no downsides?
were not naively good we know especially as players how ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up 40k is (insert chaos skinless space marine birthing scene from that one book)
we however choose to not be part of the problem.
heretics pathers decide to be everyones problem.
Dogmatic is about as far from Naive as it gets.

Iconoclast is kind of an odd term for them to use here. In real life it's someone who works to destroy religious imagery and symbolism, in game it seems to simply be used to refer to a hero of the common person. The biggest difference in gameplay between a dogmatic RT and an iconoclast is the dogmatic person follows (or at least knows how to follow) all of the Imperial religion to the letter including the parts about purging witches, mutants, and heretics. An Iconoclast basically just acts like a decent human.

I appreciate that they gave us the option to mix and match between the 3 because there is a lot of room for crossover. Gaunt would be a dogmatic Iconoclast, for example, while Lorgar might be a dogmatic heretic. I suppose the soul drinkers could be an example of heretical iconoclasts who believe in humanity but reject imperial worship and creed.
Gaius 2023 年 12 月 15 日 下午 12:49 
引用自 Daryl
Which alignment did u guys choose and why?

All 3, my most advanced run is iconoclast simply because the others really feel like you can't go back because they are really radical.
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