pc gettin really hot and loud

[Ark]

i can play cyberpunk at high settings with no issue and the temperature on my 4070 80 Degrees C and working at 90% its capasity

no way it should be this demanding i dont get that much on cyberpunk

[Viper]

Originally posted by PsychaChi:

Originally posted by Little Strawberry:

Max: 36 DBa
Max: 69~74 °c
https://www.guru3d.com/review/msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-gaming-x-trio-review/page-9/
https://www.tech-critter.com/review-msi-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-gaming-x-trio/

Either you were scammed by your friend and he switched it out, or it's faulty. Unless it somehow is a tightly crammed mATX case - which it can't be - the temperature and volume doesn't make much sense. Look into your case and see if the fans are actually spinning, whenever it is the correct card and if there's any obstruction to airflow. If the GPU is water-cooled it's obviously not properly done. Otherwise RMA it, because this is physically not possible for the card unless you have special circumstances like above.



You can have any theory confirmed by just googling it. Do you believe in a flat earth because there's people apparently proving you wrong? Probably not. You're probably going to listen to someone who actually knows what they are talking about. I mean, unless you do heart surgery on yourself, chances are you do listen to people with expertise and don't just google it.





Beep. Boop. Contradictory statement received.

Yes, I can safely tell you that no program you will ever launch can tell your GPU to turn up its fans to 20.000 RPM to launch its blades into your room, then turn your GPU into a combustion engine that will start a house fire. Your components are built to run at 100% load and they have fixed parameters, like TDP or RPM, which ultimately dictate their peak temperature and their loudness. Do you know how you can verify this yourself? Well, what do you think stops foreign hackers from just making your PC explode? We're long since past the day where hardware components were allowed to directly interface with any programming.

ChronoGuru and Viper have explained this multiple times.



The topic isn't about performance issues or bugs. Those are completely irrelevant to your issues with your PC. You can criticize the lacking visual fidelity and the bugs all you want, it has no correlation to the fact that you're not satisfied with how loud your GPU gets. And again, 80°c is what a Nvidia GPU wants to be at and it only starts thermal throttling around 84°c, which is the point where your cooling solution is not adequate.

You can focus your mental energy on trying to find bandaid solutions that don't exacerbate the symptoms, like lowering the power limit, temperature limit, changing setting here and there, but that system will always have that problem and the moment you ever start rendering videos, scenes or simply letting it do math with folding@home this issue is going to crop up for you.

People like you are so insufferable... Just go back to check posts about the first few pathfinder games and their performance issues causing stuttering and high temps than normal. Taking over a year to fully flesh out enough where your PC wouldn't cook an egg.

Which means there PCs where not capable of handling 100% utilization .You cant make a PC go past its set parameters. Some people just do not understand how PCs work.

[Ark]

Originally posted by Viper:

Originally posted by PsychaChi:

People like you are so insufferable... Just go back to check posts about the first few pathfinder games and their performance issues causing stuttering and high temps than normal. Taking over a year to fully flesh out enough where your PC wouldn't cook an egg.

Which means there PCs where not capable of handling 100% utilization .You cant make a PC go past its set parameters. Some people just do not understand how PCs work.

we get that but there is no reason to be a ♥♥♥♥ about it while doing so you and that other dude just sound like massive ♥♥♥♥♥.

[kilotone]

was facing the same issue with GPU usage going to over 90% which I think is absurd for what I'm looking at using a 12gb GPU. Summer here and I have no wish to cook eggs and bacon while I fry my GPU so turned everything down to low or off. Set Vsync to every frame and set FSR mode to performance and oh look at that. GPU usage hasn't gone over 40% since changes and usually idles around 10-30%

[kilotone]

smh. Just went back into game and wasn't impressed with visuals so ramped it back up to FSR ultra quality and texture to high and oddly enough it's still giving the same GPU usage. Crazy

[Ark]

Originally posted by kilotone:

smh. Just went back into game and wasn't impressed with visuals so ramped it back up to FSR ultra quality and texture to high and oddly enough it's still giving the same GPU usage. Crazy

issue is the how many frames you set it on if yopu dont it somehow by some reason goes crazy

i tested it and when i put it on 90 or less im getting all the way down to 50% or less wich is huge lol.

clearly the water cooler simps could just not accecpt that its the game and not the user lol

[Boreal]

I've been playing this game on a laptop, and I get a good 95 C or higher most of the time. I'm just enjoying using it to supplement my building's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ heating lol

[os]

Undervolt 3060 12gb
59c (same result in cyberpunk ultra + low rtx), high settings, almost no perfomance issues, except from trade screen, that buggy as hell if you got a lot of cargo (sometimes it even crash game)

[Space Cowboy]

I mean, utilizing as much of the hardwares resources as possible is part of good optimization. If your PC can't handle full load, you need to work on cooling and/or airflow in your PC. Tbh, my PC has been taxed to the max for a couple of years now. There's hardly any modern game that doesn't let either my 5600x CPU or my RTX 2070 GPU or (more often than not) both on full blast and having both overclocked doesn't help matters. However, the system still runs fully stable and also runs most things above 60FPS including Rogue trader - this one even without FSR or DLSS upscaling and that is a good thing.
I had a chronically unstable system before the current one so this time I made hardware choices to achieve maximum stability. Unfortunately it's still an art to build a system that goes together well, be it in terms of temps or general stability.
Long story short - good games should utilize as much of your hardware as possible and it's on you to build a PC that can handle it.

[Space Cowboy]

Also, comparing the heat that one game produces to another as a qualitative measurement is not accurate or useful. Cyberpunk is quite CPU intensive and might very well utilize it to its maximum before the GPU gets maxed out, so in this case you'd be CPU limited. Rogue trader is probably more GPU intensive, so it gets maxed out before the CPU and thus it gets hotter than in Cyberpunk.
Also, if your 4070 can produce framerates above your monitors refresh rate, that's just wasted power and heat - you won't see or feel a difference anyway - at least in a CRPG. You might see much higher framerates as in Cyberpunk anyway (I certainly do) and if you run in the 200s or so while only having a 144Hz Monitor it won't give you any advantage other than the ever so slight improvement of input lag which is useless in a CRPG. So, limit the Framerate to your monitors refresh rate and see if helps with temps unless you have a 240Hz monster of a monitor - then it likely won't do much for you.

[Xerberus86]

Originally posted by GrillePainVert:

Turn V-sync on.
When V-Sync is off, the game will render as many frames per second as possible, even if your monitor can't display these frames.

Every game is demanding when V-Sync is off, even the simplest one, because they will render hundreds of fps and often will use 100% of the GPU.

As a general rule, always turn V-sync on unless it really causes problem. I don't even understand why they ship games with v-sync off.
It's a waste of everyone's money.

because there are g-sync and freesync monitors which don't need vsync and vsync is really resource heavy and always downgrades your fps.

i can't understand why there is still vsync in the newer games and why they haven't removed it alltogether with how many freesync & g-sync monitors there are.

and yes, i have a newly pre-build PC with 4070 TI which goes to 72 - 74 max even when capped at 140, when i cap the game at 80 fps then it goes up to 61 degree.

[el0ax]

people kind of seem to be talking in circles around each other, two different issues:

1> The game is really stressing some actually pretty modern GPUs/setups and if your cooling setup isn't up to snuff, (or, yeah, you're rendering tons of frames that you're just throwing out) it's NOISY and annoying as PC go vroom while you play, 100%ing your system as you go

2> Why is *this* game seemingly so GPU-intense, considering that there isn't all that much geometry and such? Oh don't get me wrong, it's OK, but c'mon. Don't be obtuse. If it was cookin the CPU cores at turn-end I'd be less annoyed... but GPU intense? Dude. Dude. DUDE.

So folks just keep stamping their own soapboxes and throwing irrelevant arguments over each other's heads... why would "they" "remove" v-sync from games?? I like playing these games on the big screen sometimes, we're always going to need a generic standard


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fwiw honestly if you're overheating just try the v-sync @half setting, it's not a dang FPS. It shouldn't tax your system like it's BG3 (or folding@home lol) but... Unity, man...

[Mr Glitch]

Capped it at 60fps and made sure iCue isn't running, but dang it's still a very noisy boi.

[ppRogue1]

The game isn't just stressing GPU. Most well-built modern systems should be stable and within reasonable temperature thresholds with full GPU load. When you start making other bits of the PC (CPU, RAM, NVMes) run hot as well, you may start to overwhelm the cooling in some cases. Download the stress test tool OCCT and run its power supply stress test if you want to see this in action. By default, Rogue Trader isn't pushing the hardware as hard as that stress test, but it's loading the whole PC more than the average game.

The solution, as others have said, is to use a framerate cap, then lower detail if necessary. Sometimes a cap set via Nvidia Control panel or the AMD equivalent can be more reliable than an in-game cap (those sometimes fall away on loading screens etc). Vsync can help, but comes with an input latency price (not a huge deal for a turn-based game) and will help a lot less if your monitor refresh rate is above 60Hz.

[UKnowMyKind]

Originally posted by Viper:

Originally posted by Ark:

he or me are not talking about geeting it past 100% lol now you are just ignoring the issue. or wait no the solution is get a better cooling lol

Your PC getting to hot is a your PC issue...sorry. Try to fix that.

You are so damn stupid bro, first time I see such an ignorant person who just loves to be stupid lol
It not even close to be a cooling problem, it's obvious for anyone who is not a troll

[UKnowMyKind]

So about the topic. This is a common issue. I met it, turned of V-Sync, made fps max 90, did the same in geforce control panel = no temp.
I have no cooling problems in cp77 on ultra + raytracing, helldivers 2 or any other game. Don't listen to idiots who can't see anything after their nose. People just don't want to think or pretend that there is something in the world beyond their knowledge. Ridiculous