About Convictions

[Solo Cat Collector]

Hello everybody, I am having a hard time choosing between Dogmatic and Heretic.
Tell me, do I have to focus on one path from the beginning of the game or do I have some time hopping between the two before I have to reach rank 3 on one in order to get the locked gear and items? Please tell me what is the best course of action

[i_kill_pikachus]

Depends. Are you trying to roleplay, or metagame? If you're doing the former, do whatever makes sense for your character. If you're doing the latter, you're playing the game wrong.

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by SoloTOV:

Hello everybody, I am having a hard time choosing between Dogmatic and Heretic.
Tell me, do I have to focus on one path from the beginning of the game or do I have some time hopping between the two before I have to reach rank 3 on one in order to get the locked gear and items? Please tell me what is the best course of action

Dogmatic is pro imperium. For me Heretical is the chaotic evil run of all other options. Think what is the most evil and cause max suffering for max people and you get the Heretical choice.
Dogmatic is nastier than Iconoclast, but can be the optimal choice.

[=DeadShot=]

If you play on psyker that doesn't care of perill of the warp play heretical. Otherwise if you want heroic acts almost non stop go for iconoclast. Otherwise if you want to be a tank(and take no to small amount of damage) max Dogmatic.

[Illudium]

Yeah, you've got time. In the meantime, play your character, not your alignment. Figure out who your character is and what they'd do in this scenario (whether that's go "nope, this is way too screwed-up" or take shady deals with unpleasant entities in hopes of gaining power/advantage). See how your alignment naturally shapes up from that.

[kostaskladianos]

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Originally posted by SoloTOV:

Hello everybody, I am having a hard time choosing between Dogmatic and Heretic.
Tell me, do I have to focus on one path from the beginning of the game or do I have some time hopping between the two before I have to reach rank 3 on one in order to get the locked gear and items? Please tell me what is the best course of action

Dogmatic is pro imperium. For me Heretical is the chaotic evil run of all other options. Think what is the most evil and cause max suffering for max people and you get the Heretical choice.
Dogmatic is nastier than Iconoclast, but can be the optimal choice.

Dogmatic = ''orthodox'' δογματικος, ορθοδοξος in greek, Iconoclast = εικονοκλάστης against the religious icons, both of greek origin, as a greek fun of Warhammer, i love how 40k and the Imperium lore, borrow from the greek -Byzantium- Empire.

[kostaskladianos]

Originally posted by Khorvale:

Originally posted by kostaskladianos:

Dogmatic = ''orthodox'' δογματικος, ορθοδοξος in greek, Iconoclast = εικονοκλάστης, both of greek origin, as a greek fun of Warhammer, i love how 40k and the Imperium lore, borrow from the greek -Byzantium- Empire.

I don't want to burst your bubble but those are relatively common loan words in the real world too :D

For sure.

[Jack Niggleson]

They're RP choices mostly. I haven't seen a piece of conviction locked gear so far that was actually good or important enough to make me regret my decision to go dogmatic.

Just make choices based on what sort of character you want to play. Dogmatic is a puritan hardass. Heretic is what it sounds like. Iconoclast has all the bleeding heart/compassionate options.

[Kraehe]

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Originally posted by SoloTOV:

Hello everybody, I am having a hard time choosing between Dogmatic and Heretic.
Tell me, do I have to focus on one path from the beginning of the game or do I have some time hopping between the two before I have to reach rank 3 on one in order to get the locked gear and items? Please tell me what is the best course of action

Dogmatic is pro imperium. For me Heretical is the chaotic evil run of all other options. Think what is the most evil and cause max suffering for max people and you get the Heretical choice.
Dogmatic is nastier than Iconoclast, but can be the optimal choice.

Dogmatic and Heretic are kinda on the same level of evil. Heretic sometimes even look not as evil but that is because the dark gods want to lire you into their arms and to help them finishing their plans

Dogmatic see's everyone as expandable and better kill 10 Million innocents than let one heretic alive.

Both don't care how much pain and suffering they bring to everyone. Iconoclast is the only one that you can see as good (and it's a bit weird to see it in a Warhammer universe where everything is dark grey at the very best)

As for the Question, press C and then under summary you can see the benefits from playing dogmatic, heretic or iconoclast. For Roleplay reasons use what you see fit, for powerplay choose the one you think fits the best for your playstyle

[=DeadShot=]

Originally posted by Mino:

Originally posted by =DeadShot=:

Dogmatic is pro imperium. For me Heretical is the chaotic evil run of all other options. Think what is the most evil and cause max suffering for max people and you get the Heretical choice.
Dogmatic is nastier than Iconoclast, but can be the optimal choice.

Dogmatic and Heretic are kinda on the same level of evil. Heretic sometimes even look not as evil but that is because the dark gods want to lire you into their arms and to help them finishing their plans

Dogmatic see's everyone as expandable and better kill 10 Million innocents than let one heretic alive.

Both don't care how much pain and suffering they bring to everyone. Iconoclast is the only one that you can see as good (and it's a bit weird to see it in a Warhammer universe where everything is dark grey at the very best)

As for the Question, press C and then under summary you can see the benefits from playing dogmatic, heretic or iconoclast. For Roleplay reasons use what you see fit, for powerplay choose the one you think fits the best for your playstyle

Most dogmatic choices in game isn't on the same level as the Heretical choices. For evil.
When the heretical choices are not at the start to make you take the starter drug.
For me the Heretical choices looked to be more evil than dogmatic.
For iconoclast try to side with the xeno against the humans or solve the problem without fighting, dogmatic auto side with non chaos humans, and then with the one in power and heretical kill both xeno and humans. And the iconoclast choice players don't care of the consequences of siding with the xeno.
And sometimes the Dogmatic make sense(like the blind man on Rykaad Minoris, Or not to let Rykaad Minoris become a demon world, or to plunge part of Commoragh into the warp) over the iconoclast choice.
And sparing and taking all the nice choices most of the time will be ok

[Khryst]

yeah they may describe them as Dogmatic +imperium, Iconoclast +hero, Heretic +evil.

but the reality of 40k makes them not so black and white the the reprecussions that I've seen at least aren't that black and white either.

so even being primarily Iconoclast, sometimes knowing the 40k universe the Dogmatic choice ends up being the "best" choice.

Heretic though always leads to "chaos" from what I can tell it starts off subtle but that's how chaos works in corrupting those who would fight against it.