Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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Eldrin Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:33am
This cable management is disgusting.
For all the high tech 40k has, as an IT guy i am just disgusted seeing their cable management everywhere. Even in my own room connected to a tiny ass monitor is a GIANT cable all over the floor.

They can literally traverse universes but cant make their cables smaller or just hide them so people don't trip on them.

Though in general the tech feels weird, they are an insanely more advanced then we are IRL, but all their tech looks like from 30-60 years ago :steammocking:
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Kreett Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:43am 
It is a super high tech civilization that has survived 2 apocalypses and 10,000 years of stagnation where the only people who are allowed to work on tech calls innovation "tech-heresy" I hope this clears it up some
Drake Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:44am 
It's normal. People in the 40K universe don't know squat about technology, even the tech-priest are just barely using what they learned from instructions.
Their golden age of technology is over since the 25 millenium and every one is just using tech that is 15000 years old and they are just patching it up constantly.
The fact that technology is revered as a religion doesn't help, so anyone wanting to change something is usually branded as an heretic.
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Eldrin Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:46am 
Originally posted by Kreett:
It is a super high tech civilization that has survived 2 apocalypses and 10,000 years of stagnation where the only people who are allowed to work on tech calls innovation "tech-heresy" I hope this clears it up some

So these only people who can work on tech do not create any new tech? No new weapons etc?
Fistimus Maximus Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:49am 
Originally posted by Eldrin:
Originally posted by Kreett:
It is a super high tech civilization that has survived 2 apocalypses and 10,000 years of stagnation where the only people who are allowed to work on tech calls innovation "tech-heresy" I hope this clears it up some

So these only people who can work on tech do not create any new tech? No new weapons etc?
No that is heretical.
Eldrin Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by Fistimus Maximus:
Originally posted by Eldrin:

So these only people who can work on tech do not create any new tech? No new weapons etc?
No that is heretical.
How the hell do the other factions not overpower the imperium of man like that. If you just look at our own world. If we sent a morder army into WW1 it would be a 1 sided slaughter.

Also is there a lore reason to WHY it is not allowed? What happent to make it that way?
Dryden Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by Eldrin:
Originally posted by Kreett:
It is a super high tech civilization that has survived 2 apocalypses and 10,000 years of stagnation where the only people who are allowed to work on tech calls innovation "tech-heresy" I hope this clears it up some

So these only people who can work on tech do not create any new tech? No new weapons etc?
There are some tech-priests who invent new stuff. But it’s usually either just a variation of something that already exists, or it turns out to not stand the test of time.

Scrapcode (chaos infected code), demon infested machines and the men of iron (AI) have caused most discoveries to be viewed with excessive suspicion. Anything could spell the doom of the Imperium.. where did the inspiration for this invention come from. Chances are that the archenemy is trying to trick us.
Solvem Probler Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:57am 
You should see the cable management in the new Robocop game. THAT is triggering.
Irx Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Eldrin:
Originally posted by Kreett:
It is a super high tech civilization that has survived 2 apocalypses and 10,000 years of stagnation where the only people who are allowed to work on tech calls innovation "tech-heresy" I hope this clears it up some

So these only people who can work on tech do not create any new tech? No new weapons etc?
They can recreate the existing tech (well, most of it, but not all), but they don't invent anything new, kinda.
DarkFenix Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:58am 
That's just how the Imperium in 40k is. They don't understand technology, they worship it. They keep losing the ability to reproduce various technology because each forge world guards the blueprints like some kind of holy scripture, while attempting to disassemble and reverse engineer a machine would literally be considered heresy.

40k's humans are only very marginally more intelligent than the orks. They're what happens when you mix technology from the 30th millennium with a mindset people from the Middle Ages would have considered backwards and primitive.
Solvem Probler Dec 10, 2023 @ 4:58am 
Originally posted by Eldrin:
is there a lore reason to WHY it is not allowed? What happent to make it that way?

The Mechanicus - Society's IT guys - believe that all good and proper knowledge was already discovered in the past, in a Golden Age of Technology, and their job isn't to invent but to rediscover what was lost. Finding blueprints for a new gun = Good. Coming up with a new gun by yourself = Heresy.
Dryden Dec 10, 2023 @ 5:02am 
Most new inventions are the result of existing standard template constructor blueprints. Like a tank or lasgun that was invented thousands of years ago and lost to time. The mechanicum spends excessive resources to try and locate anything at all. But nobody sits down and actually makes something from scratch.

The only people with the necessary knowledge is the mechanicus, and it’s literally their religion.. if someone did invent something, then they would also need to manage to deceive everyone into believing that it wasn’t a new invention.

There is of course Cawl.. that heretic
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Irx Dec 10, 2023 @ 5:03am 
Originally posted by Eldrin:
How the hell do the other factions not overpower the imperium of man like that. If you just look at our own world. If we sent a morder army into WW1 it would be a 1 sided slaughter.
You may think that, but a ww1-era mortar would still blow your limbs off, and none of the modern tech would help you.
The most powerful race in 40k are tyranids, and they are pretty much a horde of angry animals.
Drake Dec 10, 2023 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Dryden:
Originally posted by Eldrin:

So these only people who can work on tech do not create any new tech? No new weapons etc?
There are some tech-priests who invent new stuff. But it’s usually either just a variation of something that already exists, or it turns out to not stand the test of time.

Scrapcode (chaos infected code), demon infested machines and the men of iron (AI) have caused most discoveries to be viewed with excessive suspicion. Anything could spell the doom of the Imperium.. where did the inspiration for this invention come from. Chances are that the archenemy is trying to trick us.

Also a big factor is that tech-priests revere ancient technology used by the emperor as the bible. So basically if it doesn't come from an STC, it's heretical. That's why the adeptus mechanicus is exploring the galaxy to find archeotech, because if it was already made by the imperium, then that mean they are allowed to use that tech.

Then as to why the Imperium hasn't been wiped out by xenos and chaos already.

That's because the rough population of the imperium is about a thousand thousand thousand billion (might want to add 4 or 5 zero in there, just to be sure).

A single hive world can equip a million imperial guards in one day. They are enough people in the imperium that they can afford to sacrifice 1000 psykers every day to power the golden throne.

The imperium stands because it's so massive that whatever tries to destroy a part of, they can replace it the day after.
Last edited by Drake; Dec 10, 2023 @ 5:10am
Chad of Nazareth Dec 10, 2023 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by Eldrin:
Originally posted by Kreett:
It is a super high tech civilization that has survived 2 apocalypses and 10,000 years of stagnation where the only people who are allowed to work on tech calls innovation "tech-heresy" I hope this clears it up some

So these only people who can work on tech do not create any new tech? No new weapons etc?

That's the grim dark beauty of 40k universe. Religion that worships Emperor of Mankind (Ironically, Emperor was 100% against being worshipped as a God) is so deeply rooted in the Imperium, that anything that goes against their religious teaching is heresy and you'll be purged.

Here is a scenario I mostly wrote out of my head (easy to spot where I reference some actual story in 40k for those who know about lore) to explain, what kind of fun universe 40k is.

You live in your country, have fun time working in a factory, because that's mostly what you've ever known aside worshipping Emperor. You live in a city so large, that you probably have no Idea what a tree looks like and rarely see the sky, because the buildings above you make it similar to living inside a cavern made of concrete and steel.

A massive army of cultists and renegades who worship Chaos gods (Which you have next to zero knowledge of as a citizen and if you do, you'd probably be killed to prevent you from spreading that crumb of information you have). The attack is relentless and you decide to pick up arms and join militia to defend your home.

Years of bombardments, bloody battles for different sectors of your city and millions of lives lost, you finally see space ships closing the orbit, bringing you salvation when the Emperor's chosen fall from the sky.

Battle is won, war is over, city is saved. You can't wait to get back to your normal life.

Then, the fun stuff: Some Inquisitor decides that the city you live in is too infected by the tainting powers of chaos, decides, that most, if not all, people in the city who fought against the Chaos army must be placed in labour-camps and castrated, because the 0.01% chance that your neighbour might be corrupted by Chaos is too much of an risk in his opinion.

And that is just one of the good endings you can get.
Last edited by Chad of Nazareth; Dec 10, 2023 @ 5:11am
Eldrin Dec 10, 2023 @ 5:12am 
Originally posted by Irx:
Originally posted by Eldrin:
How the hell do the other factions not overpower the imperium of man like that. If you just look at our own world. If we sent a morder army into WW1 it would be a 1 sided slaughter.
You may think that, but a ww1-era mortar would still blow your limbs off, and none of the modern tech would help you.
The most powerful race in 40k are tyranids, and they are pretty much a horde of angry animals.

I mean modern warfare would just use air superiority to dominate the battlefield, by modern i do not mean what goes on in ukranie and russia they are fighting pretty much in WW2 tech. By modern i mean unleashing USA or some rich EU country at WW1
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