Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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fatehasfans 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 6:21
Why always Imperium?
Some of us don't want to be the Imperium. Why do these games never make options to play the other races?
So many good looking games have this limitation and it's stops me from buying. Adeptus Mechanicus is another example. I would have bought the game if I could have played as Necrons but no you must be Imperium. Dull as dishwater.
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SunfireKnight86 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:50 
You're saying "I don't want to play this game!"

Well, lucky for you, there's a simple solution.
Kadaeux 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 Ruinous
引用自 Kadaeux

You want the frank bottom line answer?

Because, the core of Warhammer 40k is the Imperium. It is what the entire setting revolves around. It is the largest volume of sales. It is the easiest subject to do right.

Look at Firewarrior, 40k's first shooter was about the Tau. Adnit tanked. I would love if we had more games whose central theme didn't include the Imperium or Chaos ***at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all*** but so long as GW is exerting enough control, what we do get like that is going to be severely limited.
It was a decent shooter for the time too. I quite liked it.

I loved it myself, was the first game I can remember deliberately working my way through every single difficulty and finishing everything with the best possible scores. (Though I had the Playstation version, the PC port was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ awful.)
REhorror 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:51 
All the RPG from Warhammer 40k are based on imperial careers.

Dark Heresy next.
DDkiki 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:52 
引用自 Ruinous
引用自 Kadaeux

You want the frank bottom line answer?

Because, the core of Warhammer 40k is the Imperium. It is what the entire setting revolves around. It is the largest volume of sales. It is the easiest subject to do right.

Look at Firewarrior, 40k's first shooter was about the Tau. Adnit tanked. I would love if we had more games whose central theme didn't include the Imperium or Chaos ***at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all*** but so long as GW is exerting enough control, what we do get like that is going to be severely limited.
It was a decent shooter for the time too. I quite liked it.

You do you, but i think it wasn't decent at all, i hated it even before i learned what WH40k was, it was terrible gameplay-wise and story didn't make much sense. I mean 2 years after it Republic Commando was released and it would be rude to even compare them.
Nick 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:53 
Rogue Traders can only be humans. I'm pretty sure they are only baseline humans too. I'm unsure of how lore-accurate it is our character can be a sanctioned psyker, but 40k has a lot of exceptions, so whatever.

40k games don't let us play as xenos very often because people generally don't want that. Most people are happy to play as a human or a space marine, so games pick that as a safe and easy option.

There's also very little lore for xenos for devs to go off from. People don't buy xenos minis that often, so GW largely only releases human/space marine-centric books. It also doesn't help that when a 40k author does release a xenos book they're almost always going to get less sales than if they had written yet another space marine book. Hard for devs to even know how to write a xeno a lot of the time.

It's really down to money. Companies don't want to touch xenos much because it's too risky when the 40k community is obviously happy/content with human content.
最后由 Nick 编辑于; 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:55
FlyingTorcensoredWhale 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:55 
引用自 DDkiki
Thats why im not that fan of WH40k compare to fantasy, but GW in 40k basically only worked deeply on Imperium and its different aspects, all other "xenos" races are more like an enemy fluff and was never as expanded and would be not the best material for a game outside of maybe strategy game that is less about writing and more about gameplay.

引用自 Kadaeux
Look at Firewarrior, 40k's first shooter was about the Tau. Adnit tanked. I would love if we had more games whose central theme didn't include the Imperium or Chaos ***at ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all*** but so long as GW is exerting enough control, what we do get like that is going to be severely limited.
Tbf FW was just awful game to begin with. In every aspect.
The Bolter in FW was good, so not in every aspect. I've enjoyed using Bolter there. That's pretty much it, but it's something.
Kadaeux 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 7:57 
引用自 REhorror
All the RPG from Warhammer 40k are based on imperial careers.

Dark Heresy next.

This is actually untrue :P

Rogue Trader provides for Ork, Drukhari AND Kroot PC characters. (But it goes without saying that none of them can actually be the Rogue Trader character, and as 'sanctioned xenos' they are technically property of whoever was the Rogue Trader PC. Thus would not work for being the title character.)
i_kill_pikachus 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 8:01 
引用自 Kadaeux
引用自 REhorror
All the RPG from Warhammer 40k are based on imperial careers.

Dark Heresy next.

This is actually untrue :P

Rogue Trader provides for Ork, Drukhari AND Kroot PC characters. (But it goes without saying that none of them can actually be the Rogue Trader character, and as 'sanctioned xenos' they are technically property of whoever was the Rogue Trader PC. Thus would not work for being the title character.)

Dark Eldar*. Don't encourage GW's retarded copyright names.
Jim Dandy 2023 年 12 月 9 日 上午 8:05 
Because its Roguetrader, you're literally a sanctioned guy of the imperium
Deus 2024 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:21 
引用自 fatehasfans
Some of us don't want to be the Imperium. Why do these games never make options to play the other races?
So many good looking games have this limitation and it's stops me from buying. Adeptus Mechanicus is another example. I would have bought the game if I could have played as Necrons but no you must be Imperium. Dull as dishwater.


Go play Mechanicus then, it's a game that you play as the Adeptus Mechanicus. As for Necrons, yeah a game like that would never work. Most of the Necrons are just mindless machines at this point, the only ones that aren't basically space terminators are the dynasty overlords and some other special cases. Guess what? GW will NOT let people use those characters since it would have all sorts of lore ramifications. Why do you think most 40k games are about ♥♥♥♥ off in the middle of no where using new characters or only mentioning ones that are established in lore? Because GW wants games made to be considered cannon and that no one will get confused about lore due to inaccuracies between a video game and the broader hobby as a whole.
Schlumpsha 2024 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:27 
引用自 fatehasfans
Some of us don't want to be the Imperium. Why do these games never make options to play the other races?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1324530/Warhammer_40000_Shootas_Blood__Teef/?curator_clanid=34274830
Stomp da Humies!
REhorror 2024 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:28 
引用自 Kadaeux
引用自 REhorror
All the RPG from Warhammer 40k are based on imperial careers.

Dark Heresy next.

This is actually untrue :P

Rogue Trader provides for Ork, Drukhari AND Kroot PC characters. (But it goes without saying that none of them can actually be the Rogue Trader character, and as 'sanctioned xenos' they are technically property of whoever was the Rogue Trader PC. Thus would not work for being the title character.)
Yes, these are hirelings for retinue.

The main character will be either a human, RT, Inquisitor, Guardsman/Commissar or Space Marine.
Cheeodon 2024 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:32 
引用自 fatehasfans
Some of us don't want to be the Imperium. Why do these games never make options to play the other races?
So many good looking games have this limitation and it's stops me from buying. Adeptus Mechanicus is another example. I would have bought the game if I could have played as Necrons but no you must be Imperium. Dull as dishwater.

Firewarrior let you play as the Tau. Dawn of War and Dawn of War 2 had campaigns for a bunch of xenos races, total warhammer, also, lets you play as a multitude of races. Blood bowl, equally, lets you play across multiple races, then you have the new ork wacky races battle-car game.

Space marines and the imperium are, defacto, the most popular faction. So they get the most media attention. They have the most stories to tell, and its where the most money comes in so guess who gets the most screen time.
最后由 Cheeodon 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:34
Faptor 2024 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:48 
引用自 a-tlantis
Armada 2: Necrons, Nids, Chaos, Imperium
How could I forget about that game?
Ive had a hankering for galactic conquest so ive been playing Planetary Annihilation, I knew there was another game out there that had a similar style campaign but I just couldnt remember what it was.

Thankkkkk youuuuuu
penny dreadful 2024 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:50 
because then they would have to actually write something interesting and couldn't just copy paste bs about how cool the emperor is and how strong the commisar is and bla bla bla.
gw barely cares about warhammer as a whole, the only reason they haven't killed off literally everything other than one model that you pay 1000 dollars for is because marketing told them it was a bad idea. look at the millions of terrible dogsheet rip offs of other games thant constantly come out and it's just civ 4 with a 40k coat of paint.
there is never ever going to be another story driven warhammer game where you don't play as the simplest to write most boring objectively worst faction and anyone who says anything differently is shooting that copium straight into their veins.
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