Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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TheComedicCommunist Dec 9, 2023 @ 6:20am
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Owlcat PLEASE let me romance the Sister of Battle
It isn't fair you can't just have her in the game and not let me you are violating my human rights please fix this oversight ASAP
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JimmysTheBestCop Dec 22, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by MrDjinn:
@JimmysTheBestCop
That's true for all Ch1 companions. Maybe with exception of Idira, I don't remember when her quest battle happens Ch1 or Ch2.

The idea would be for Argenta to have additional events on the ship while traveling or something, just like with other romance options.

I feel like everyone else at least comments during quests or something. When Argenta in Chp 3 commented about the murder I was like wow I forgot what she sounded like.

She really isnt fleshed out at all. I feel like Ulfar joining super late has way more interactions just in act 3/4 then Argenta did the entire game.

ok yes you are 100% right. The beginning companions are super silent compared to the late additions.

what is up with that? jae and ulfar have been my favs probably because they have the most lines and are late pickups.

weird
MrDjinn Dec 22, 2023 @ 5:52pm 
She had many comments during quests in my game. Granted most of them were some iteration upon "DIE, HERETIC", but still...

I could see my character and her chill out after a few hours of heretic-blasting. Lie down in our spaceship space captain's quarters, drinking space wine, watching Space Titanic. Or whatever people in 40k do for fun when they aren't blasting.
Helldiver Dec 22, 2023 @ 8:20pm 
Originally posted by Solomon Kane:
1. This comes from Amberly himself and I quote here now " Contrary to popular belief, the Adepta Soroitas doesn't actually require members to remain celibate, although few find the time to take advantage of the fact. "

2. In the Book " Cain's Last Stand ", one of the Instructors, a Sister of Battle, has a relationship with an Instructor of the Schola Progenium.

Love how you guys always make that as two sources, when it's the same one. In the same book, the editor Amberly remarks about Sister Julien (your #1), so this is still 1 source. Sister Julien was a Retired sister. I believe it's been established that retired sisters do have long term relationships.

"Cain was also stunned to discover that she was having a secret affair with Brasker, the Schola's Administratum bursar[1d]. To Cain, this was shocking on a number of levels: Cain himself always found Brasker to be rather boring company; in public, he and Julien never seemed to be more than amiable rivals[1a]; and last but not least, Cain had never heard of a Sororitas having relations with any man. Amberley Vail, editing Cain's memoirs, noted that Sororitas are not actually forbidden to have liaisons with men, it is simply that few of them ever have the time to pursue one.[1e]"
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Julien

As for your #3, it seems the Reddit poster, was mistaken and also quoting Cain's Last stand.

Originally posted by E.:
So lets go, prove me wrong.

At first I was leaning more towards Sisters have relationships being normal as something new in the canon. I was going by my own Space Wolf codex going on about Luckas the Trickster and how GW has made changes more recently. I'm not up to par on SoB Lore. But the more I dug into it, the more more it seems to be the opposite.

There's only scant few anecdotes within one, maybe two books, that point to retired or non-militant sisters of battle having relationships. But even those references pale in comparison to the agenda being pushed in this thread.

So far it revolves around 1 quote in one book, regarding a retired Sister and teacher at a school. Not something I would remotely consider evidence to suggest a Sister of Battle like Argenta would entertain a normal longterm relationship as Solomon Kane suggests.

I don't consider 1 quote, in 1 book, maybe 2 books? As evidence enough or canon enough as you and others suggest in this thread. When you hold that against long established lore for other topics, such as the account of the Horus Heresy, Space Wolf Wolfen, The Red Thirst, The Fallen (DarkAngels), and any other hard established lore in the 40K universe, SoB having regular relationships isn't one of them. On the contrary, I'm lead to believe the opposite based on the lore I've read and their codices.

I'm also of the thought, that Argenta should technically be able to be romanceable, as a fleeting romance but would make it clear to the player that it wouldn't last. Her writing and comments currently suggest that her priorities lay elsewhere. She makes this clear on numerous occasions including her reactions to Jae's announcements over the intercom.

Owlcat reversing this would require a tremendous amount of work.
Last edited by Helldiver; Dec 22, 2023 @ 8:32pm
Nox Dec 22, 2023 @ 8:32pm 
One time I was at a gaming convention and these two heavy set prior generation glasses and pageboy hat GRRM looking dudes were having this utterly heated discussion about some WH40K lore and one of the dudes got pissed and started packing his ♥♥♥♥ up, when I realized he had a trolley to haul his 40k gear. A trolley.

That's what this reminds me of.
Helldiver Dec 22, 2023 @ 8:58pm 
Originally posted by The Monarch:
The Ecclesiarchy is based on the Catholic church. Nuns marry God and take vows of celibacy in Catholic dogma. The sisters of battle are Nuns (with guns), so no they cannot be romanced. Their entire lore is based around them being guardians of the faith and literal living saints. Even the Space Marines can't equal the Sister's faith.
Their faith is so strong and unyielding that there is a literal "greater daemon" of the emperor in vhttp://Saint Celestine

The problem is, GW especially now days, are never going to admit to this, even if they remove any reference to the term Nun. And that's what the people in this thread pushing for SoB being regular mundane women with boyfriends and relationships, are using along with 1 quote from 1 book which keeps being divided as 3, 4, 5, 6 different sources.

Meanwhile we have numerous other 40K elements with multiple sources to back them up which can be found easily either directly from their corresponding codex, main rulebooks, or repeated in various novels. Yet we find hardly anything resembling the agenda being pushed for in this thread about sisters having normal relationships with husbands and kids. Note that any reference posted is vague, or just a rehash of the same Cain novel. In nearly every reference the poster prefaces by saying "I don't recall, but in such and such novel in a sentence" or "I'm not clear, but if I remember correctly..."

Ask someone about the Red Thirst, The Fallen, Genestealers, Necromunda Clans, Cloning in the 40K universe, Corpse Starch, The Primarchs, Perpetuals, the Black Ships or any other narrative and you find tons of lore sources.
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JimmysTheBestCop Dec 22, 2023 @ 9:11pm 
I will agree to Sister of Battle Romance if we get Gay Inquisitor Romance.

Deal?????????????????????????
SHE IS LITERALLY AN ADEPTUS SORORITAS. SHE DOES NOT HAVE ROMANTIC FEELING FOR ANYONE BUT THE EMPEROR HIMSELF. AND THOSE FEELINGS CAN ONLY BE ASSUAGED BY THE BLOODSHED OF HIS ENEMIES AND THE PROTECTION OF MANKIND. FOR THE EMPEROR.
Ultima Dec 22, 2023 @ 9:20pm 
Originally posted by JimmysTheBestCop:
Originally posted by ChompyRiley:
Nun + Gun = Fun

but she has no lines. she doesnt even communicate with the MC after footfall early act 2.

She has TONS of lines, it's just variations of PURGE WITH HOLY FIRE, AQUILA, EMPEROR, HERETIC.
Ultima Dec 22, 2023 @ 9:21pm 
Originally posted by SHAKEN, NOT STIRRED:
SHE IS LITERALLY AN ADEPTUS SORORITAS. SHE DOES NOT HAVE ROMANTIC FEELING FOR ANYONE BUT THE EMPEROR HIMSELF. AND THOSE FEELINGS CAN ONLY BE ASSUAGED BY THE BLOODSHED OF HIS ENEMIES AND THE PROTECTION OF MANKIND. FOR THE EMPEROR.

She really doesn't, she's profoundly singlemindedly devoted to her cause, as one would expect of a sororitas. The only fire in her loins is for the purging of heretics.
ChompyRiley Dec 22, 2023 @ 9:22pm 
Okay, but where does it say that they don't have regular relationships, children, and the like? Like where's the specific book and page where it talks about them taking vows of celibacy? Other than that they're coded as space nuns with space guns. Give me a book, a page, the whole nine yards.
Ultima Dec 22, 2023 @ 9:27pm 
Originally posted by ChompyRiley:
Okay, but where does it say that they don't have regular relationships, children, and the like? Like where's the specific book and page where it talks about them taking vows of celibacy? Other than that they're coded as space nuns with space guns. Give me a book, a page, the whole nine yards.

There isn't one, explicitly spelled out in Cain's Last Stand. They don't have a vow, but it's very rare because they're so fanatically devoted to their cause. All that fiery zeal burns out their loins, metaphorically speaking. Argenta is too narrow-minded from autistic zeal to even notice you or herself have sexual attraction. When you first meet, she almost kills you all because she's in terminator nun mode. Many times throughout the story, you have to convince her from being a totally zealous spaz.
Last edited by Ultima; Dec 22, 2023 @ 9:29pm
Maxwell Dec 22, 2023 @ 9:46pm 
sisters normally swear Oaths of Chasity. They can have authorized relationships and children, but most are dedicated to the emperor
jonoliveira12 Dec 22, 2023 @ 10:23pm 
Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:
The tension and friction is palpable. Can't we all just agree to make love?
Love is weakness, only death brings release.
Razzen Dec 22, 2023 @ 10:24pm 
Just for this I'll make a tabletop session and make the characters enter into an orgy with an order of adepta sororitas.
Slayersson Dec 22, 2023 @ 10:32pm 
something tells me you don't know much of the lore
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