Gloriana Class Battleship

[sleeve]

WIll this be a thing? I already bought it cause 40k and owlcat but the above mentioned ship will be nice

[Nick]

I doubt so. Rogue Traders don't tend to use such massive vessels. Procurement would be insane and would probably get inquisitors and the navy nervous.

[Homer Morisson]

Maybe modders will be able to give us different ships, but officially, no, the RT only uses a Frigate... either the Sword Class, or the Firestorm Class if you buy the Deluxe Pack.

[=DeadShot=]

Are the ship different ingame? Or only cosmetics?

[Marauder]

Escrito originalmente por Nick:

I doubt so. Rogue Traders don't tend to use such massive vessels. Procurement would be insane and would probably get inquisitors and the navy nervous.

Not true. Rogue Traders are known to use ships up to heavy cruisers quite regularly as their flagship usually supported by a fleet of smaller vessels.

[Moonbane]

The gloriana class vessels was meant for the primarchs as the flagships of the space marine legions. The Imperium has only a few left, most were destroyed during the Horus Heresy.

The 3 most well known loyalist remaining:

Macragge's Honour (Ultramarines)
The Invincible Reason (Dark Angels)
Eternal Crusader (Originally Imperial Fists, but ended up with their Black Templars successors)

Originally the Eternal Crusader was just a Battle Barge, but eventually got retconned into a Gloriana Class vessel.

[Marauder]

Escrito originalmente por Moonbane:

The gloriana class vessels was meant for the primarchs as the flagships of the space marine legions. The Imperium has only a few left, most were destroyed during the Horus Heresy.

The 3 most well known loyalist remaining:

Macragge's Honour (Ultramarines)
The Invincible Reason (Dark Angels)
Eternal Crusader (Originally Imperial Fists, but ended up with their Black Templars successors)

Originally the Eternal Crusader was just a Battle Barge, but eventually got retconned into a Gloriana Class vessel.

Yeah, they're at the extreme end and rare as hell. Hardly anyone would ever get one. But it's not true that Rogue Traders primarily or exclusively use "smaller" vessels. They often have entire fleets including mid to larger sized vessels.

[Miles Mayhem]

Escrito originalmente por Marauder:

Escrito originalmente por Moonbane:

The gloriana class vessels was meant for the primarchs as the flagships of the space marine legions. The Imperium has only a few left, most were destroyed during the Horus Heresy.

The 3 most well known loyalist remaining:

Macragge's Honour (Ultramarines)
The Invincible Reason (Dark Angels)
Eternal Crusader (Originally Imperial Fists, but ended up with their Black Templars successors)

Originally the Eternal Crusader was just a Battle Barge, but eventually got retconned into a Gloriana Class vessel.

Yeah, they're at the extreme end and rare as hell. Hardly anyone would ever get one. But it's not true that Rogue Traders primarily or exclusively use "smaller" vessels. They often have entire fleets including mid to larger sized vessels.

But isn't it that the Gloriana Class wasn't built after the HH? Happy to stand corrected, but IIRC, these also were issued as Legion flagship only?

Edit - missed a comment in between.
And yes, one major element of the Rogue Trader flair is that such one can be anything between a winded down, one single ship & just trying to survive (plot-wise, the deed should guarantee a solid income ^^) towards a significant navy strength, especially outer fringes

[Moonbane]

The Imperium lost the ability to build more Gloriana Class vessels after the Horus Heresy.

[=DeadShot=]

Escrito originalmente por Moonbane:

The Imperium lost the ability to build more Gloriana Class vessels after the Horus Heresy.

I don't think so. I think they don't need it from a cost benefit analysis and because every Gloriana build will be a political issue to the highest level.

[Falaris]

Your Sword frigate is a 6 gigaton ship with a crew of 26000. That should be sufficient for anyone. :)

But of course, it'd be NICE with something bigger, but I suspect the game balance would be out the window if enemies are scaled for a frigate and you have a battleship.

[=DeadShot=]

Escrito originalmente por Falaris:

Your Sword frigate is a 6 gigaton ship with a crew of 26000. That should be sufficient for anyone. :)

But of course, it'd be NICE with something bigger, but I suspect the game balance would be out the window if enemies are scaled for a frigate and you have a battleship.

Well Winterscale flagship is a cruiser/heavy cruiser. And you fight heavier ships than frigates.

[Moonbane]

Escrito originalmente por =DeadShot=:

Escrito originalmente por Moonbane:

The Imperium lost the ability to build more Gloriana Class vessels after the Horus Heresy.

I don't think so. I think they don't need it from a cost benefit analysis and because every Gloriana build will be a political issue to the highest level.

From the wikis
Due to the ailing state of the Imperium following the galaxy-wide rebellion, which cost the galaxy dearly in both blood and treasure, the Mechanicum's shipyards were unable to continue producing such powerful and advanced vessels.

[Marauder]

Escrito originalmente por Falaris:

Your Sword frigate is a 6 gigaton ship with a crew of 26000. That should be sufficient for anyone. :)

But of course, it'd be NICE with something bigger, but I suspect the game balance would be out the window if enemies are scaled for a frigate and you have a battleship.

In other settings, sure. In Warhammer that's a frigatte for a reason.

[Fenris]

Gloriana Class Battleship where only made for the Space Marine Legions in the Horus heresy, the thing you should be able to get are Emperor Class or Retribution class battleships they are about 8 KM or 9 KM long, and as a Rogue Trader you dont have any rules you need to obay in case of what you are allowed to own, if you have the money or the connections you can own what ever you want, as long some one wants to give it to you, and there are Rogue Trader houses so powerfull they have entire fleets

[sleeve]

Escrito originalmente por Falaris:

Your Sword frigate is a 6 gigaton ship with a crew of 26000. That should be sufficient for anyone. :)

But of course, it'd be NICE with something bigger, but I suspect the game balance would be out the window if enemies are scaled for a frigate and you have a battleship.

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