Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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Make it Grim and Dark plz !
No happy ending.
No love story with crossebreed baby eldar.
No dark eldar redemption story.

Do it warhammer 90's style.
No mercy
No question ask.
No hope.
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You forgot one:

No desire to play.
why not all these things? grimderp doesn't prevent you from crossbreeding some eldars, now does it?
Balekai 25. Mai 2023 um 15:27 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Something completely different:
You forgot one:

No desire to play.

Yeah the above would likely make the fact that this is a CRPG useless. Then the game might as well have just been a first person shooter or whatever like most 40K games.

Taking the special position of a Rogue Trader in the 40K universe +40K Rogue Trader Ruleset and then... Railroading the player into a one dimensional simplified experience that could have been accomplished with an IG Lord General, Space Marine or Inquisitor PC... Yeah no thanks.

No Happy Ending - Owlcat tends to do a whole range of endings so there will be some form of happy ending. I do hope/bet it will be "happy" akin to just carrying out your duties and having built a stable prosperous trade empire. It will likely 99.99999% all fall apart anyways due to future major 40K event we already know of. there's that Grim Darkness for ya regardless. :p

No love story with crossbreed baby Eldar - Don't do the romance personally then. Allowing it allows a Rpgue Trader to develop towards a xenos weak/loving character somewhat shunned by other Imperium authorities (as per Tabletop). A progressive, idealistic Rogue Trader born in the wrong Galaxy in the wrong Millennium and the major consequences (or boons) that come with it. Even for someone with such free ranging authority as a Rogue Trader.

No Dark Eldar Redemption Story - Nope I agree as I think that would be bad storytelling (too cliche). There doesn't seem to be one either from what I have seen. If anything, it's more (possibly because I never saw any endgame with the route during Alpha) "use em" like Rogue Traders of certain less ethical alignment may do in Tabletop. :)

Do it Warhammer 90's Style - I completely agree leave all the modern woke/anti-woke political crap out and just do a 40K story that's 40K and don't worry what biased brains think that can't pull their head out the political sands. Do your 40K story Owlcat the way you play tabletop. And no, having a gay character or an alien romance is not woke by default. Before the word woke existed and 2010 and for a good decade before that, this stuff wasn't an issue in gaming. So yeah 90s style Warhammer please. :)

No Mercy - Can't agree. You need mercy in the game in order to allow different paths and character developments, and where a character that shows mercy runs into issues compared to a no mercy character (and vice versa). Or how a merciful character and their trade empire may start to slip into chaos corruption through complacency. While a no mercy character may develop an unhealthy bloodlust that leads to the same.

No Questions Asked - Dialogue, investigation and exploration are kind of a thing in CRPGs. What's the point of persuasion skills etc from tabletop if we can't use them to do anything but push forward in the most direct way? :p

No Hope - There's always hope with Faith in the Emperor! Only followers of Chaos give into hopelessness!

Edit:

I thought I would use this post as an excuse to post the IG ending for Dawn of War II Retribution. Not an example of of a great good ending or Grim Dark (it's not). Just amusing. Not as amusing as a the Ork ending though and the "hat."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywEui4tWiew&t=37s
Zuletzt bearbeitet von Balekai; 25. Mai 2023 um 15:38
^^^ excellent response and breakdown.
yeah i just read about Robout guilliman banging his eldar girlfriend...i guess 40k changed a lot since i stop playing tabletop in 2011.....yeah
Zuletzt bearbeitet von kigraa; 26. Mai 2023 um 4:32
nah man .I wan more Ciaphas Cain and Trazyn
Zuletzt bearbeitet von ~ Fabulous ~; 26. Mai 2023 um 5:09
Ursprünglich geschrieben von kigraa:
yeah i just read about Robout guilliman banging his eldar girlfriend...i guess 40k changed a lot since i stop playing tabletop in 2011.....yeah

Thats got to be some fan fiction crap like the female primarchs right?
Not even that, just a tired old meme that annoys
Ursprünglich geschrieben von kigraa:
yeah i just read about Robout guilliman banging his eldar girlfriend...i guess 40k changed a lot since i stop playing tabletop in 2011.....yeah
Non-fans like you just keep repeating this same 1d4chan meme. That never happened and Roboute hasnt showed an incling of romantic favor towards the Eldar. He is just using her for his plans to restore the Imperium. He would snap her neck in two the moment he deems her useless

Thats whats going on. The only Primarch who gives two shyets about romance is Fulgrim, and his idea of romance is a bit abnormal
Zuletzt bearbeitet von thunda; 1. Juni 2023 um 8:35
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ad'Nar:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von kigraa:
yeah i just read about Robout guilliman banging his eldar girlfriend...i guess 40k changed a lot since i stop playing tabletop in 2011.....yeah

Thats got to be some fan fiction crap like the female primarchs right?

It's a reddit meme. It begins because normally when human and eldar interacts in a book, even when they don't fight but ally they usually insult eachother about 2 times per sentence, and this time both Guilliman and Yvraine were pretty polite. It was enough for the reddit minds broken by grimderp overdose to intantly turn it into romance.

In fact, i wait for this game precisely because every other 40k game is strictly railroaded - so no wonder we never had proper RPG! Emperor forbid we give player any actual agency to influence even the supertiny noncanon part of setting!
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Vanhal:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ad'Nar:

Thats got to be some fan fiction crap like the female primarchs right?

It's a reddit meme. It begins because normally when human and eldar interacts in a book, even when they don't fight but ally they usually insult eachother about 2 times per sentence, and this time both Guilliman and Yvraine were pretty polite. It was enough for the reddit minds broken by grimderp overdose to intantly turn it into romance.

In fact, i wait for this game precisely because every other 40k game is strictly railroaded - so no wonder we never had proper RPG! Emperor forbid we give player any actual agency to influence even the supertiny noncanon part of setting!
Its a 1d4chan slash /tg/ meme, not from reddit. You can pretty much assume every meme related to 40k comes from those two places.
Soul 1. Juni 2023 um 8:46 
Well as a alpha tester I can tell you that "redacted" will happen when you warp travle on a more dangrouse route, also the Dark Eldar are "redacted", so grim-dark aplenty. ^^
hehe^^ :LaughingOwlcat:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Soul:
Well as a alpha tester I can tell you that "redacted" will happen when you warp travle on a more dangrouse route, also the Dark Eldar are "redacted", so grim-dark aplenty. ^^

Another person that doesn't understand the intricacies and nobility of Dark Eldar culture, and is obviously suggesting they're evil sadistic maniacs with false redacted innuendo! Mere labels! *pffft!*

You people just don't understand nor do you truly understand 40K lore!

Wait? ... I'm the only one that feels this way? ... Nevermind I will see myself out... *whistles*
I actually made a post expressing my concerns for Owlcats ability to convey the tone and spirit of 40K. I love Kingmaker but it definitely has more of an heroic atmosphere of camaraderie and hope when compared with 40K.

In saying that though if any individuals in the Emperium of Man had the free reign and adventure the Barron from KM have than it would definitely be the Rogue Traders. So it's probably a good thing that Owlcat is using this IP and not that of Inquisitor or Dark Heresy.
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