Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader

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jnd0e 10. Apr. 2023 um 10:47
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Adepta Sororitas
So, she's unromancible? Really now? The objectively best girl of the bunch? Is this a joke? Are you forcing players into cuckoldry now? And don't tell me about BUDUB-BADAB MUH BVIDES OF DE EMPEHOH GA-DA-BU-BU nonsense.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dr. Raven:
In all seriousness what's with the hysteria? If a character is not romancable then just romance someone else.
This fixation on a virtual battle-nun seems a bit ridiculous.
Leave the Sister alone lol.

what do you expect from op who says cuckold non ironically and talks in baby speak when throwing a tantrum?
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Garruk:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von thunda:
Now that you laid it out, I can see too. Holy sheyt. But I do agree that Sororitas and Astartes have no place in any kind of romance, so I support that. It would be spitting on the lore. Theyre not people like you and me, theyre brainwashed soldiers and utterly devoted to their cause.

Btw I killed Octavia and that orc in Kingmaker for their disgusting actions

So you think it's okay to bang an Eldar chick. (To the Eldar people are like monkeys to us) To bang a mutant navigator chick is normal and story friendly, (do I need to remind you lore 40k expert what kind of selection they do there?) but a human chick is not. Do you really know lore? There's already a bunch of assumptions here and a sororite in a player's bed is less of an assumption than what's already in the game. So the whiners about the romance with Argenta will break the lore, hey it's already been broken on the knee.
He has no clue of lore at all.
And apparently has issues with relationships too, his commentary makes me think of young kid thinking girls have cooties.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Hex: Onii-Chan:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von jnd0e:
So, she's unromancible? Really now? The objectively best girl of the bunch? Is this a joke? Are you forcing players into cuckoldry now? And don't tell me about BUDUB-BADAB MUH BVIDES OF DE EMPEHOH GA-DA-BU-BU nonsense.

Ayo, look, if you want to step up to Big E and explain to him why a Sororitas should be slobbering on your knob, that's an admirable quest, but I feel like the likelyhood of success is rather minimal.

But if you want an actual explanation - the only reason AS are pretty much incorruptable, no matter what some dumbass new "oh look, we are so edgy and shocking" book series says, is because their faith and dedication are absolute. A romantic relationship would just be a vector for Slaanesh.

Above is prime example on how to tell you know nothing of 40k lore without saying you know nothing of lore.

Slaanesh is god of excess. Romantic relationship is for Slaanesh worthless, as it does not involve excess of any kind.

Massive drug fueled orgies, that is Slaanesh playfield. Two lovers together is not, and that is something that happens in WH40k world trillions of times every day. If simple romance fueled Slaanesh, it would make universe half slaaneshi.

Just as well one could claim that Sororita shooting with gun acts as vector for Khorne.
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I think it would be too Cringe to have that in the 40K Universe but after all there's stuff like Roboute Guilliman.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von "En marana domus nava crunatus":
I think it would be too Cringe to have that in the 40K Universe but after all there's stuff like Roboute Guilliman.
What stuff about Roboute? You mean the meme of his big tiddy eldar gf, thats only that, a meme?

There's not a hint of romance between them. Youre talking about a primarch, and one at that whose only joy in life is Excel spreadsheets and the Big E, and an Eldar who think humans are slightly above monkeys.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von "En marana domus nava crunatus":
I think it would be too Cringe to have that in the 40K Universe but after all there's stuff like Roboute Guilliman.
No it would not be. Specially in game with roleplaying aspect you rather NEED something like romance to give characters depth.

Making every character to be about one thing and one thing only turns them all to single dimensional and boring. That can work if you create simple action hack&slash Diablo style, but when you put RPG to description you need more.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tregon:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von "En marana domus nava crunatus":
I think it would be too Cringe to have that in the 40K Universe but after all there's stuff like Roboute Guilliman.
No it would not be. Specially in game with roleplaying aspect you rather NEED something like romance to give characters depth.

Making every character to be about one thing and one thing only turns them all to single dimensional and boring. That can work if you create simple action hack&slash Diablo style, but when you put RPG to description you need more.
Absolutely incorrect. Romance is not needed whatsoever for any RPG, and least of all is it needed to give characters depth in any medium. Its clear youve never read a book in your life.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von thunda:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von "En marana domus nava crunatus":
I think it would be too Cringe to have that in the 40K Universe but after all there's stuff like Roboute Guilliman.
What stuff about Roboute? You mean the meme of his big tiddy eldar gf, thats only that, a meme?

There's not a hint of romance between them. Youre talking about a primarch, and one at that whose only joy in life is Excel spreadsheets and the Big E, and an Eldar who think humans are slightly above monkeys.

Hah, don't get me wrong though. I'm of the Opinion that i'd like having this Game stay as close to 40K Universe Lore as possible.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von "En marana domus nava crunatus":
I think it would be too Cringe to have that in the 40K Universe but after all there's stuff like Roboute Guilliman.
40k is full of cringe, so is any Tabletop game that has been going on for 20+ years. And you know what, if it means I get to enjoy my planet of Felinids, I'll take cringe.

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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tregon:
No it would not be. Specially in game with roleplaying aspect you rather NEED something like romance to give characters depth.

Making every character to be about one thing and one thing only turns them all to single dimensional and boring. That can work if you create simple action hack&slash Diablo style, but when you put RPG to description you need more.
Absolutely incorrect. Romance is not needed whatsoever for any RPG, and least of all is it needed to give characters depth in any medium. Its clear youve never read a book in your life.
Romance is never needed for an RPG, but it allows further exploration of a character that would be much harder to do, if you weren't pursing them romantically. Sure it's often done poorly, and I do question Owlcat's decisions on these characters 90% of the time, but it can be done well. And 40K needs more romance, especially in the games, the closest you'll get in most of them is the brains of a foul xenos on a Space Marine's boot.

Now of course Adepta Sororitas brings a unique challenge in that regard, one which is lore friendly-ish but would be hard to pull off. But that doesn't mean I don't want it, in fact ♥♥♥♥ it, let me romance the entire crew, harem everyone, space orgies are great especially if you wish to summon gods into the world. But I know they'll never do it, even if Owlcat is known for ignoring the lore (Valerie for example) there is no way that Overlord GWS will allow us to ever have fun with the setting.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von thunda:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tregon:
No it would not be. Specially in game with roleplaying aspect you rather NEED something like romance to give characters depth.

Making every character to be about one thing and one thing only turns them all to single dimensional and boring. That can work if you create simple action hack&slash Diablo style, but when you put RPG to description you need more.
Absolutely incorrect. Romance is not needed whatsoever for any RPG, and least of all is it needed to give characters depth in any medium. Its clear youve never read a book in your life.
Blocked fool, romance is essential for well made RPG. It should not be made mandatory but it must be possibility.

Obviously your grasp of culture and books is extremely limited. Go educate yourself. Romance has been staple of storytelling for millenia. Because it is essential part of being normal human. Try it sometime.

You might want to Google guy called Shakespeare. He had pretty popular text called Romeo & Juliet. Or Homer, wrote about this romance thing involving one Helen and this place called Troy.

Hint, some of most succesful WH40K boon SERIES have plenty of romance.
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thunda 3. Juni 2023 um 8:47 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheBlindRouge:
And 40K needs more romance
Another Twilight fan coming to ruin whats good about this setting

let me romance the entire crew, harem everyone, space orgies are great especially if you wish to summon gods into the world.
Or maybe youre some dirty Slaaneshi cultist. In either case, keep out
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheBlindRouge:
And 40K needs more romance
Another Twilight fan coming to ruin whats good about this setting

let me romance the entire crew, harem everyone, space orgies are great especially if you wish to summon gods into the world.
Or maybe youre some dirty Slaaneshi cultist. In either case, keep out
Go away little boy. It is clear you have no grasp of Warhammer, culture, literature or human relationships. Go ask mommy or daddy explain these to you.
They were known as the brides of the emperor but those that break their vows would be sent to the repentia.
Steel 3. Juni 2023 um 11:25 
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Garruk:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von thunda:
Now that you laid it out, I can see too. Holy sheyt. But I do agree that Sororitas and Astartes have no place in any kind of romance, so I support that. It would be spitting on the lore. Theyre not people like you and me, theyre brainwashed soldiers and utterly devoted to their cause.

Btw I killed Octavia and that orc in Kingmaker for their disgusting actions

So you think it's okay to bang an Eldar chick. (To the Eldar people are like monkeys to us) To bang a mutant navigator chick is normal and story friendly, (do I need to remind you lore 40k expert what kind of selection they do there?) but a human chick is not. Do you really know lore? There's already a bunch of assumptions here and a sororite in a player's bed is less of an assumption than what's already in the game. So the whiners about the romance with Argenta will break the lore, hey it's already been broken on the knee.
The Eldar viewing us as monkeys is an over exaggeration or simplification of the whole thing.

They do consider humans sapient, which is different from sentience, they've been known to view the killing of humans as murder, and upon taking their masks off are either gleeful or sorrowful. They're more likely to view us as mentally challenged beings then animals, we are simply incapable of perceiving the world and emotions as they do.

There's a novel where a... I think member of the Wytch cult, has to sleep with a human governor, she finds it disgusting but does so anyway and later betrays him.

I bring this up because, a dog cannot blackmail a human, they are incapable of having the intelligence or emotional capacity to manipulate a situation. Humans can to an extent, and the Eldar certainly can.

It's more apt they view us as psykically stunted barbarians. If someone with a severe mental disability blackmailed you into sex you'd find it disgusting for a variety of reasons. Bestiality isn't one of them.

Also the term Mon'keigh, while it sounds like monkey, has absolutely nothing to do with primates. GW just thought they were clever. The Mon'keigh were misshapen monstrosities that invaded the Aeldari lands and subjugated them for many cycles, until they were eventually cleansed from the galaxy by the hero Elronhir in some mythological story.

When an Eldar says that, they're saying we're mindless destructive beasts as an insult. They don't literally think we're the Mon'keigh of their myth, or actual monkeys.
Get out of here, heretic
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