A Carry Stacker that is not a cheat

[Zap [PT]]

I've been thinking about this. For one, I want to carry more than one bag at a time. But on the other hand, Carry Stacker is way too cheaty! So I started thinking about the possibility of there being a non-cheat variant of Carry Stacker.

Clearly, we need a limit for the bags. I was thinking 6: 2 on your back (one for each shoulder), 2 on your arms (one for each elbow), and 2 on your legs (one for each leg). There would be a setting as to where to place your bags first. So if this setting was set to Back - Arms - Legs, the first 2 bags would be on your back, the next 2 on your arms, and the last 2 on your legs. You get the idea. But for dropping them, it would be the inverse, so with that same setting, and trying to drop the bags, the bags on your legs would be thrown first, then the arms, then the back.

And then an effect for each bag. I came up with a limit for each body part instead: Each bag on your back increases stamina consumption, each bag on your arms makes your gun shaky and less accurate, each bag on your legs reduces your movement speed. All of these directly proportional to the weight of the bag, obviously.

I was about to be done with this when I decided to try it IRL. Putting bags on your shoulders and arms? Quick and easy. Strapping a bag onto the side of your leg (strapping it on the front or back hinder your knee)? Jesus, that takes a huge while. So maybe there should be an increased amount of time for picking up bags when you're putting them on your legs. And it should also take time to drop said bags.

There could be flaws in this I haven't noticed, and I need you guys to identify them, since I can't. If you think this is still cheating but have an idea for one that isn't, please tell me. I personally don't know how to make mods, but maybe someone here will look at this post and do it, who knows. I would like to be informed if someone does start working on this.

[Zero [HU][VR]]

Commander Zapminer05 PT eredeti hozzászólása:

Zero HUVR eredeti hozzászólása:

The only thing I would be okay with and wouldn't consider it cheating, if you could pick up a second bag, but then you wouldn't be able to shoot at all.

And why is that? There are better ideas in here, like carrying a max of 3 but taking a heavy toll in gun play and movement, or taking 2 with a heavy toll on movement alone.

Because it's a game, not a simulation of real life, and needs balance. The question is not what is possible or isn't, but what's playable or isn't. And it needs balance. Carrying three bags would break most maps, as they are made for multiple bag trips that you'd bypass, making them way too easy.
Bag carrying is deliberately tedious. It shouldn't be made easy, that's just cheating.

[Zap [PT]]

Zero HUVR eredeti hozzászólása:

Commander Zapminer05 PT eredeti hozzászólása:

And why is that? There are better ideas in here, like carrying a max of 3 but taking a heavy toll in gun play and movement, or taking 2 with a heavy toll on movement alone.

Because it's a game, not a simulation of real life, and needs balance. The question is not what is possible or isn't, but what's playable or isn't. And it needs balance. Carrying three bags would break most maps, as they are made for multiple bag trips that you'd bypass, making them way too easy.
Bag carrying is deliberately tedious. It shouldn't be made easy, that's just cheating.

Well the game is remarkably good at recreating real life actually. In some aspects. In any case, I'm ok with just carrying 2 bags, but 2 bags and disabling guns? No.

Captain Toof eredeti hozzászólása:

To be not cheaty it must allow not more than 2 light bags with no sprint. (Painting and coke) also 2 keycards, but 2nd pick-up interaction should use 5/5+ sec.

Ok I'm good with 2 bags, but 2 LIGHT bags? Uhh, no. You can easily carry 2 bags full of cash IRL and still be able to use your hands freely. Obviously you can't carry 2 bags of gold, but still.´

Also, NEW IDEA: We set a weight value for each bag, and a weight carrying limit value for the player. You can see where I'm going with this. For example, if the weight value for a painting was 5 and the weight carrying limit value for the player was 20, you'd be able to carry 4 paintings (because 20 : 5 = 4). This is an example and NOT the actual values I would want.

How would that work?

[BlackRibbon]

Commander Zapminer05 PT eredeti hozzászólása:

Zero HUVR eredeti hozzászólása:

Because it's a game, not a simulation of real life, and needs balance. The question is not what is possible or isn't, but what's playable or isn't. And it needs balance. Carrying three bags would break most maps, as they are made for multiple bag trips that you'd bypass, making them way too easy.
Bag carrying is deliberately tedious. It shouldn't be made easy, that's just cheating.

Well the game is remarkably good at recreating real life actually. In some aspects. In any case, I'm ok with just carrying 2 bags, but 2 bags and disabling guns? No.

How about you can carry 2 bags but can no longer ADS and you get a -16 and -20 stability penalty?

[Zap [PT]]

Black Ribbon eredeti hozzászólása:

Commander Zapminer05 PT eredeti hozzászólása:

Well the game is remarkably good at recreating real life actually. In some aspects. In any case, I'm ok with just carrying 2 bags, but 2 bags and disabling guns? No.

How about you can carry 2 bags but can no longer ADS and you get a -16 and -20 stability penalty?

I'm afrais to ask but, what's ADS? Also the stability penalty seems good.

[Lammah]

the only carry stacker thats not a cheat is one implemented by the creators. And so far, they havent done that.

[Thermal Lance]

Black Ribbon eredeti hozzászólása:

A better way to balance it would be to be able to carry 2 bags but removing the ability to ADS and /or also incurring an accuracy and stability penalty. It's hard to aim and shoot while carrying heavy rucks/bags, trust me.

Given that most fighters are close to medium range. Better be one big handicap.. Not even mentioning people using shotguns would laugh at it. Heavy penalty to speed is way better imo.

[Thermal Lance]

Lammah eredeti hozzászólása:

the only carry stacker thats not a cheat is one implemented by the creators. And so far, they havent done that. [/quotes] Bots can carry bags.... It's somewhat already there. Except you need to babysit them to an extreme level.

[Lammah]

Lance The Space Invader eredeti hozzászólása:

Lammah eredeti hozzászólása:

the only carry stacker thats not a cheat is one implemented by the creators. And so far, they havent done that.

Bots can carry bags.... It's somewhat already there. Except you need to babysit them to an extreme level.

They can only carry one and are super slow, but it's a decentish compromise without breaking a core gameplay limit.

[Thermal Lance]

Lammah eredeti hozzászólása:

Lance The Space Invader eredeti hozzászólása:

Bots can carry bags.... It's somewhat already there. Except you need to babysit them to an extreme level.

They can only carry one and are super slow, but it's a decentish compromise without breaking a core gameplay limit.

Breaking what limit?

Actual players can carry these things easily twice as fast... if not 3 times as fast. Not even mentioning their tendency to randomly drop it in some situations. And sometimes in the worse possible place. And we're speaking of vanilla... the player dont even have the luxury of waypoints. What kind of "decent" compromise are we speaking of?

I'd rather ignore the retarded bots and carry the bags myself. Even if that means being slow as f-.

[Zap [PT]]

Lammah eredeti hozzászólása:

the only carry stacker thats not a cheat is one implemented by the creators. And so far, they havent done that.

Are you THAT dense? Sometimes mods that are considered cheats by the creators are 100% not cheats and just outright things that make the game way more interesting and fun and everyone in the community knows that.

[yoshi bob]

probally not for heavy bags such as gold you would break your body

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CourrptedSanta eredeti hozzászólása:

probally not for heavy bags such as gold you would break your body

Yea we've come to that conclusion, only carry 1 bag, also the scheme I posted here was completely taken out of picture by everyone, now it's way different.