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[bd]King Ubu Sep 11, 2018 @ 2:22am
Hacker Deck Botnet heal bypasses berserker skill
First time I noticed this today. Don't play with many hacker decks without the crash.

Botnet from hacker deck heals crew when killing cops affected by pocket ecm.

Berserker negates 3rd party regeneration when active.

My berserker was getting healed from Botnet. And he's not supposed to get 3rd party regen.

Kinda screws up my berserkering.
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Berserker only prevents Gambler's heal. And Frenzy Aced overrides that restriction.
Originally posted by The Least Interesting Chibi...:
Berserker only prevents Gambler's heal. And Frenzy Aced overrides that restriction.
Which are all mistakes. Players shouldn't heal from other player's perk decks *at all* once in Berserker state.

Speaking of Berserker state: Were you below 50% health at the time? You most likely were (because of Frenzy) but it's important to rule that out.
Originally posted by Your Ideal Enemy Spawn Limit:
Originally posted by The Least Interesting Chibi...:
Berserker only prevents Gambler's heal. And Frenzy Aced overrides that restriction.
Which are all mistakes. Players shouldn't heal from other player's perk decks *at all* once in Berserker state.

Speaking of Berserker state: Were you below 50% health at the time? You most likely were (because of Frenzy) but it's important to rule that out.
Well... That's your opinion on the matter. I believe even back pre100 Berserker didn't stop health regen from Grinder, Ex-Presidents or Muscle. Whether or not it's a mistake is up to Goldfarb.
Originally posted by The Least Interesting Chibi...:
Well... That's your opinion on the matter. I believe even back pre100 Berserker didn't stop health regen from Grinder, Ex-Presidents or Muscle. Whether or not it's a mistake is up to Goldfarb.
Other players.
Hoxi Sep 12, 2018 @ 5:35pm 
Originally posted by The Least Interesting Chibi...:
Berserker only prevents Gambler's heal.

It actually prevents the regeneration from the Healer bot boost and the Gas Dispenser as well. So yeah, no, it should block Hacker's Botnet regen.

Originally posted by The Least Interesting Chibi...:
And Frenzy Aced overrides that restriction.

Not.

Originally posted by The Least Interesting Chibi...:
Well... That's your opinion on the matter. I believe even back pre100 Berserker didn't stop health regen from Grinder, Ex-Presidents or Muscle. Whether or not it's a mistake is up to Goldfarb.

That was originally intended and it worked that way for a bit, but then it was changed so that only regen provided by teammates is blocked (or anything out of the player's control, like the bot boost), hence:

Originally posted by Your Ideal Enemy Spawn Limit:
Players shouldn't heal from other player's perk decks *at all* once in Berserker state.

OVERKILL, as usual, forgot to make an exception for this (because they rarely remember these things), although the reason is that the players themselves have to kill an enemy to regenerate health, instead of receiving health in the form of crew_health_regen, which checks if the player is in any form of Berserker state before being applied.

Checking if the player doesn't have the perk deck equipped (first) and if they're in a Berserker state before applying the regen would be the way to go.
Last edited by Hoxi; Sep 13, 2018 @ 2:20am
Thank Hoxi for the clarification. Good to see you back.
Hoxi Sep 13, 2018 @ 8:48am 
No worries! Though I hope that didn't sound aggressive. Also, I edited the first text since I made it sound like Berserker doesn't block Gambler's healing from other players.
Originally posted by Hoxi:
No worries! Though I hope that didn't sound aggressive. Also, I edited the first text since I made it sound like Berserker doesn't block Gambler's healing from other players.
It was a bit... but that's okay. I often come off sounding like a know-it-all, when mostly I'm just regurgitating info I've learned from the hard-work of others. And even then... it's mostly from memory, so I'm bound to get things wrong.
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Date Posted: Sep 11, 2018 @ 2:22am
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