Nintendo Switch version is severely outdated. Below update 118.

[Vintage Tradesmann]

https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/comments/7yuljb/the_switch_version_is_below_update_130/
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Update 130 was released over a year ago. The PC version is currently at update 172.

Update 131 was the John Wick Heists update, and it also changed the billboards in game to the new community made designs. The Switch version has these billboards so I thought it was at least Update 131, but as it turns out, the John Wick Heists are missing from the game (This thread has a lot of information. Specifically the following images. Sorry for the poor quality, but these are someone else's photos)

https://i.imgur.com/NgfJcCB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UM8vdIs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mk85VgC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ASMG2ht.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/evIw4cs.jpg
Although the images don't show it, apparently Jimmy and his heists are in the game. Sangres, Duke and H3H3 are all missing which means there's no way it's over version 144.

This means that so far, the footage Overkill has released "on the Switch" is just the PC version with Joy added in capped at 30 FPS, or for some bizarre reason, they updated the billboard textures but left the rest of the updates out... ?

The John Wick Heists were released February 9th, 2017. The Switch version, on release, is already over a year outdated. No Crime Spree. No AI Henchmen. No Desync Update. Four characters, three perk decks, 16 guns, 8 melee weapons, 2 grenades, 9 heists, at LEAST 50 masks, countless bug fixes and optimizations (when I say countless, I mean it. Easily over 200) just... missing.

Someone has pointed out that Panic Room is also missing from the heist list meaning the Switch version could potentially be below update 118, which was nearly two years ago, and is even further behind than the PS4 and Xbox One versions.

♥♥♥♥ you Overkill? Like... what the ♥♥♥♥? I was defending Overkill at this point even though their console ports have been abandoned because I was under the impression that an exclusive character would require the latest version of the game. I thought we were getting the most recent version and nothing else. I would have been happy with that. I honestly would have been able to forgive all the missing content but no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Desync Update? Are you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ joking? Arguably one of the most important updates in all of PAYDAY history, and you leave it out?

I really wanted to buy PAYDAY on the Switch just to play solo on-the-go. I really honestly still do, but I'm going to force myself not to because this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Not counting sales, PAYDAY 2 Ultimate Edition on Steam costs $45 USD. PAYDAY 2 for Nintendo Switch costs $50 USD. Why are we paying $5 more for an outdated version of the game with less content? So I can play it on-the-go and think to myself, "wow, I really wish I was playing the full version right now"?

I really wish I could say I was surprised, but after the microtransactions/pay2win, Ashley's promotion and subsequent rampage, and Overkill's reaction (especially Joakim) to that by insulting the playerbase rather than admit that there was a problem, I'm no longer surprised that Overkill is going for the cashgrab route again. Overkill has proven time and time again they're so out of touch with the community that they might as well be on Mars. So glad I stopped spending money on this ♥♥♥♥ company.

[The Least Interesting Chibi...]

Also... It's significantly easier to update games on steam then on console, the only thing consoles have going for them is that their hardware is standardized so it's easier to develop for.

I'm not surprised it's behind PC because they can't just roll out the latest version, as it still has to go through the various red tape of the platform. Additionally having use a earlier version gives more time to bug fix various issues that be unique to that platform.

Considering that many would prefer a pre100 or preCF15 version of PD2 for steam, I don't think it's that much of an issue from a marketing perspective to have the lastest PD2, rather having a stable product to maintain brand integrity is more desirable. Additionally, they don't need new customers, instead the switch port is for existing customers that want to play on the go.

[drewbstar]

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

 Awkward Lancelot  původně napsal:

I am speechless... At this point it has to be intentionnal and certaintly is shady as all hell.

Payday 2 still is one of my favourite game... but you certaintly managed to beat Konami at being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to your fanbase.

It really is. I wonder what goes through their heads when they think about releasing PD2 on a console. Do they do it to shut the console players up? That's really my only explanation.

I certainly won't be buying OTWD or PD3, if they keep showing this behaviour. And chances are that they will.

Just stop catering to console players, OVERKILL. Doesn't matter how much they beg or cry about it, don't release console versions anymore. A game made exclusively for PC shouldn't and doesn't belong on console. Period.

Console ports can work, Overkill is just exceptionally bad at it.
Also console players pour money onto their terrible ports, so of course they're going to.
Something something the X00 days out of date thread

[∴ Snake ∴]

drewbstar původně napsal:

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

It really is. I wonder what goes through their heads when they think about releasing PD2 on a console. Do they do it to shut the console players up? That's really my only explanation.

I certainly won't be buying OTWD or PD3, if they keep showing this behaviour. And chances are that they will.

Just stop catering to console players, OVERKILL. Doesn't matter how much they beg or cry about it, don't release console versions anymore. A game made exclusively for PC shouldn't and doesn't belong on console. Period.

Console ports can work, Overkill is just exceptionally bad at it.
Also console players pour money onto their terrible ports, so of course they're going to.
Something something the X00 days out of date thread

No, ports very rarely work the way they were intended. When they make a game on console, and then port it to PC, what do we get? GTA 4, Arkham Knight, and god knows how many other garbage ports. When you make a game on PC and port it to console, what do you get? Outdated, dumbed down versions of a game, just to make it work on console. AKA Payday 2 on Xbox, PS4, and Switch.

[Thermal Lance]

drewbstar původně napsal:

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

It really is. I wonder what goes through their heads when they think about releasing PD2 on a console. Do they do it to shut the console players up? That's really my only explanation.

I certainly won't be buying OTWD or PD3, if they keep showing this behaviour. And chances are that they will.

Just stop catering to console players, OVERKILL. Doesn't matter how much they beg or cry about it, don't release console versions anymore. A game made exclusively for PC shouldn't and doesn't belong on console. Period.

Console ports can work, Overkill is just exceptionally bad at it.
Also console players pour money onto their terrible ports, so of course they're going to.
Something something the X00 days out of date thread

Funny when we consider PC market is FLOODED by half assed console ports with no imagination whatsoever. (COD anyone?)

XD

Actually pc players are the one dealing with ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ports... Console players USUALLY do not even see PC-designed game on their console.

Just try to imagine how a game like Stalker could work on console.

[swift]

drewbstar původně napsal:

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

It really is. I wonder what goes through their heads when they think about releasing PD2 on a console. Do they do it to shut the console players up? That's really my only explanation.

I certainly won't be buying OTWD or PD3, if they keep showing this behaviour. And chances are that they will.

Just stop catering to console players, OVERKILL. Doesn't matter how much they beg or cry about it, don't release console versions anymore. A game made exclusively for PC shouldn't and doesn't belong on console. Period.

Console ports can work, Overkill is just exceptionally bad at it.
Also console players pour money onto their terrible ports, so of course they're going to.
Something something the X00 days out of date thread

Ports most of the time never end up well. Overkill and many other devs are just looking for ways to earn a little bit of money by porting the same game to many different consoles. Nothing wrong with that from a business perspective, but the game itself will take some hits.

[Thermal Lance]

★ѕωιfтѕнιfту★ původně napsal:

drewbstar původně napsal:

Console ports can work, Overkill is just exceptionally bad at it.
Also console players pour money onto their terrible ports, so of course they're going to.
Something something the X00 days out of date thread

Ports most of the time never end up well. Overkill and many other devs are just looking for ways to earn a little bit of money by porting the same game to many different consoles. Nothing wrong with that from a business perspective, but the game itself will take some hits.

Well..."nothing wrong" remember how they said they would do their best to keep ps4 version up to date? If that really is their best then well... Wow. Can't say im impressed.... Many people bought the ps4 version because they believed it would be maintained to be up-to-date with the pc version and overkill did nothing to indicate otherwise... on the countrary they ran with it.

[drewbstar]

I don't care enough to derail the entire thread, so I'll sum up:

something something microsoft keeps trying to do cross platform, sony keeps dragging its feet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_Live_games_on_Windows_10
I don't play most 'mainstream' games nowadays, so I can't really comment on their status.

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

No, ports very rarely work the way they were intended

★ѕωιfтѕнιfту★ původně napsal:

Ports most of the time never end up well

not trying to be b8y, but...
[citation needed]

Sure, there are bad ports. But, AFAICT, most of the 'garbage' is just AI handling or FPS limiting. Or textures. Not overarching design. Most of which can be fixed with fast/simple moding.
actually i play dark souls 1 so i do know, both 360/xbox1/pc

[The Least Interesting Chibi...]

I'm going to use automotive analogy here, but please bear in mind I'm not much of petrolhead.

You can't simply assume that you can just take the code from a console and swap it into another console or PC. If they were like cars it would be like expecting that you can take 90% of a NASCAR stock car and then expect to run perfectly in the body of a Formula 1, supercar, 1980s hatchback, or a motorcycle. It's just not going to work.

[Prof.Jackie]

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

 Awkward Lancelot  původně napsal:

I am speechless... At this point it has to be intentionnal and certaintly is shady as all hell.

Payday 2 still is one of my favourite game... but you certaintly managed to beat Konami at being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to your fanbase.

It really is. I wonder what goes through their heads when they think about releasing PD2 on a console. Do they do it to shut the console players up? That's really my only explanation.

It's not to shup up console players. It's a quikk cashgrab from a playerbase that most likely never heard of Overkill and their reputation.

Oh and seems like the reddit thread made it to the news section of some german "gaming site" focused on Nintendo products

Link for those who are cutious[www.ntower.de]

[Duckilous]

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

Not Here for Fortune or Fame původně napsal:

Well, it turns out that this is actually not quite accurate. According to Starbreeze's actual investor Q&A[www.starbreeze.com], the Switch port IS the Most Wanted edition on Xbox One and PS4 (except with Joy, obviously). So, not only is it past Update 118, it's up to Update 144.



So, yeah. Obviously, still far from ideal (seeing as we're now looking at the port being just under 10 months out of date), but not quite as bad as originally suggested.

That's good to know. It's still pretty bad, but not as bad as that kid in reddit suggested.

Never trust Reddit users.

Everyone makes mistakes. You can always correct them with the piece of information that "Not Here for Fortune or Fame" has provided.

[Salem]

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

Not Here for Fortune or Fame původně napsal:

Well, it turns out that this is actually not quite accurate. According to Starbreeze's actual investor Q&A[www.starbreeze.com], the Switch port IS the Most Wanted edition on Xbox One and PS4 (except with Joy, obviously). So, not only is it past Update 118, it's up to Update 144.



So, yeah. Obviously, still far from ideal (seeing as we're now looking at the port being just under 10 months out of date), but not quite as bad as originally suggested.

That's good to know. It's still pretty bad, but not as bad as that kid in reddit suggested.

Never trust Reddit users.

Except YOU are wrong. The current PS4/Xbox One update that goes up to Sangres is the Master Plan one.
The Most Wanted update does indeed stop right before Crimefest 2016, so you just proved that the Reddit post was correct and that the Switch version is severely outdated, even further from Xbox One and PS4 versions.

[Infinite Thwomp Works]

Salem φ původně napsal:

∴ Snake ∴ původně napsal:

That's good to know. It's still pretty bad, but not as bad as that kid in reddit suggested.

Never trust Reddit users.

Except YOU are wrong. The current PS4/Xbox One update that goes up to Sangres is the Master Plan one.
The Most Wanted update does indeed stop right before Crimefest 2016, so you just proved that the Reddit post was correct and that the Switch version is severely outdated, even further from Xbox One and PS4 versions.

...And you're right. Man, I'm really not having a good day with this today.

[VxWolf]

Massively disappointing

[Glory]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA

All I have to say. Holy fu** thats bad.

[Spence2345]

Not defending OVK here but it being more expensive on switch can and will almost definitely be chocked up to "the switch tax" where 3rd party games are 5-10 bucks more expensive than there xbox/ps4/pc counterparts
https://www.destructoid.com/l-a-noire-will-have-the-switch-tax-that-makes-it-10-more-expensive-on-nintendo-s-platform-459912.phtml