What is Sandbox?

[Swiffi]

I'm sorry, but what is the point of sandbox mode? It's like starting the game again, without anything you unlocked, without unlimited money, without max staff. If you completed the campaign, then you have zero reason to play sandbox at all.

If you want to restart, just wipe your museums in campaign. No reason to start a sandbox. At least then you'll have your exhibits, expedition progress, stickers, unlocks, high level staff... Like this just confuses me to no end.

[Psycho Pie]

The campaign acts as a tutorial as you manage the museum at Memento Mile

Keep in mind that there are in total 5 maps in sandbox mode, each with different theme, different exhibits and different challenges.

- Prehistoric stuff at Memento Mile

- Aquarium at Passwater Cove

- Surnatural at Wailon Lodge

- Science at Bungle Wasteland

- Space at Pebberley Heights

Yes, you start all over from scratch but it is still a fresh experience.

[Swiffi]

Originally posted by Psycho Pie:

Yes, you start all over from scratch but it is still a fresh experience.

Sure, tutorial aside, a sandbox mode has never been to start fresh with no unlocks. It's to play with everything possible in the game without limits and not worry about game mechanics.

I already finished the campaign and 100%d the game, I just wanted to go to sandbox and build out a super museum, but now I have to grind everything out again. It just doesn't make sense

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Swiffi:

Sure, tutorial aside, a sandbox mode has never been to start fresh with no unlocks. It's to play with everything possible in the game without limits and not worry about game mechanics.

I already finished the campaign and 100%d the game, I just wanted to go to sandbox and build out a super museum, but now I have to grind everything out again. It just doesn't make sense

The bigger game update that is coming soon will address your concerns, by providing more options for sandbox mode (including having everything unlocked, as you are requesting).

The update is on the beta branch of the game already. You can read more about it in this thread.

[GhostWolfe]

I’m withholding judgement on the update until I know how unlocking the map works. In Campaign, large parts of the map aren’t even visible without working on the corresponding museum. If that’s true of sandbox, even the latest updates will not it make it palatable enough for me.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by GhostWolfe:

I’m withholding judgement on the update until I know how unlocking the map works. In Campaign, large parts of the map aren’t even visible without working on the corresponding museum. If that’s true of sandbox, even the latest updates will not it make it palatable enough for me.

I have the beta installed and, right now, you do have to meet the unlock conditions for POI's before you can visit them, but unlock conditions aren't museum dependent. You can unlock POI's on any of the maps from any museum.

The only exception I can think of, off the top of my head, would be the one that requires leveling up Wailon. I'm not far enough along in my sandbox to check that. I'm not even sure if the unlock condition for the POI is even the same in Sandbox, nor whether you can get Wailon outside of Wailon Lodge if it is true.

[GhostWolfe]

Unlock conditions don’t bother me, but (for example) are all the Two Point Sea POIs visible all the way down to the bottom without getting any stars in Passwater? That map is heavily gated by progress in campaign.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by GhostWolfe:

Unlock conditions don’t bother me, but (for example) are all the Two Point Sea POIs visible all the way down to the bottom without getting any stars in Passwater? That map is heavily gated by progress in campaign.

I can't say for sure, but I think so.

You have to unlock them in a path, doing an unlock reveals the ones past it, so until I progress to unlocking them on a map that isn't Passwater Cove, I could not say for sure. But thus far, unlocking POI's on any map reveals the next chain of POI's, regardless of what map I am on when I do the unlock.

[Swiffi]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Originally posted by GhostWolfe:

Unlock conditions don’t bother me, but (for example) are all the Two Point Sea POIs visible all the way down to the bottom without getting any stars in Passwater? That map is heavily gated by progress in campaign.

I can't say for sure, but I think so.

You have to unlock them in a path, doing an unlock reveals the ones past it, so until I progress to unlocking them on a map that isn't Passwater Cove, I could not say for sure. But thus far, unlocking POI's on any map reveals the next chain of POI's, regardless of what map I am on when I do the unlock.

I'm not sure you have the beta of this "big update" then. What you are describing in the beta is already what the current sandbox mode is...

[GhostWolfe]

Thanks everyone. That eases some of my trepidation around starting a sandbox museum. Still some stuff to get in campaign first, though.

[Swiffi]

Originally posted by GhostWolfe:

Thanks everyone. That eases some of my trepidation around starting a sandbox museum. Still some stuff to get in campaign first, though.

Yeah if you have a campaign museum that is working well and making money, theres no point in sandbox.

[GhostWolfe]

Originally posted by Swiffi:

Originally posted by GhostWolfe:

Thanks everyone. That eases some of my trepidation around starting a sandbox museum. Still some stuff to get in campaign first, though.

Yeah if you have a campaign museum that is working well and making money, theres no point in sandbox.

Gotta get all those achievements >.>

[funkopoptyigh76]

Whats the big deal just unlock everything. For us who like just to build stuff

[Swiffi]

Originally posted by GhostWolfe:

Originally posted by Swiffi:

Yeah if you have a campaign museum that is working well and making money, theres no point in sandbox.

Gotta get all those achievements >.>

But i got all the achievements on campaign! Like you already got progress in campaign, dont restart in sandbox

[GhostWolfe]

Originally posted by Swiffi:

Originally posted by GhostWolfe:

Gotta get all those achievements >.>

But i got all the achievements on campaign! Like you already got progress in campaign, dont restart in sandbox

There is an achievement to get to level 10 in the sandbox, which isn’t much, but if I’m gonna start in sandbox I want to be able to commit to it.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Swiffi:

I'm not sure you have the beta of this "big update" then. What you are describing in the beta is already what the current sandbox mode is...

I do have the beta of the big update. If you read through the list of changes, there's no mention of the map POI unlocks being changed.

There is an option in sandbox in the beta to unlock everything else from the start; workshop projects, enlightenment, kudosh unlocks, etc. But nothing for map POI's.