Better descriptions for ghost needs.

[adamkkool]

currently having a bit of a issue with taking care of ghosts. I feel like some of their needs are to vague or weird. Right now I am missing a bonus because they want to be with a chimny sweep (pleibein) but I have another ghost with them that says they are a pleb and it's still not activating. idk if I am missing something here or not.

[Noxy]

Anyone? I am also having this problem. The Pleb wants "something warm" and nothing seems to work.

[therealjohnconnor]

Not got to Wailon Lodge yet, but have you tried a fireplace? Apologies in advance if this sounds flippant.

[LurkinLikeAFlerken]

There are lots of different types of industrial age Plebian ghosts. I have 3 so far: a vaudevillian, a chimney sweep, and another I can't remember at the moment but she didn't want a roommate and i used her for analysis. They ask for things like "any seat" but they mean from the industrial age set, so a sofa or arm chair or any seat from that theme, but they get upset from seats from other time periods. That's all what I've found out so far. Still have lots to learn.

[jwwo0o0]

Originally posted by Noxy:

Anyone? I am also having this problem. The Pleb wants "something warm" and nothing seems to work.

Hey Noxy - Something warm I belive is the Radiator, give this a go and let me know how you get on :)

[jwwo0o0]

Thanks for the feedback everyone - I'm going to speak with the designers to see if we can make the messaging here any clearer!

I hope you're enjoying the game otherwise!

[Noxy]

Originally posted by jwwo0o0:

Thanks for the feedback everyone - I'm going to speak with the designers to see if we can make the messaging here any clearer!

I hope you're enjoying the game otherwise!

Game is fantastic! So the problem was that the message said "nothing warm" and I misunderstood that to mean that there wasn't anything warm in the room after trying a fireplace and a radiator.

Turns out that I thought it was asking me to fill the need of not having something warm as opposed to making sure nothing in the room was putting off heat.

Seems like a bit more clarity is all that is needed in some of the requests.

Otherwise? Absolutely loving the game!

[aeryn_sunsinger]

I had the same issue - the ghost said no bookcases and I thought she was complaining about having no bookcases so I kept adding them. Eventually I figured out she didn't want any bookcases.

[Okto]

Originally posted by jwwo0o0:

Thanks for the feedback everyone - I'm going to speak with the designers to see if we can make the messaging here any clearer!

I hope you're enjoying the game otherwise!

my first goast need music, i dont have anyone. i sell the gost, but no new is coming. i cant do th quest now anymore?

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Okto:

Originally posted by jwwo0o0:

Thanks for the feedback everyone - I'm going to speak with the designers to see if we can make the messaging here any clearer!

I hope you're enjoying the game otherwise!

my first goast need music, i dont have anyone. i sell the gost, but no new is coming. i cant do th quest now anymore?

The moment you are given your first ghost the game literally unlocks the record player for you to place in his room

New ghosts don't show up, you need to go get them yourself on expeditions just like any other exhibit

Originally posted by aeryn_sunsinger:

I had the same issue - the ghost said no bookcases and I thought she was complaining about having no bookcases so I kept adding them. Eventually I figured out she didn't want any bookcases.

It's literal, it's telling you they want: no bookcases

Originally posted by Noxy:

Anyone? I am also having this problem. The Pleb wants "something warm" and nothing seems to work.

The fireplace that you're given as soon as one of them asks for something warm...

[Okto]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by Okto:

my first goast need music, i dont have anyone. i sell the gost, but no new is coming. i cant do th quest now anymore?

The moment you are given your first ghost the game literally unlocks the record player for you to place in his room

New ghosts don't show up, you need to go get them yourself on expeditions just like any other exhibit

To go further on the next expedition, i need to fill all needs from a gohst, what i sell before.. . it isnt possible.. . :(

[Captain Flappy]

Originally posted by aeryn_sunsinger:

I had the same issue - the ghost said no bookcases and I thought she was complaining about having no bookcases so I kept adding them. Eventually I figured out she didn't want any bookcases.

I had the same with a fish, I thought he wanted plants, so I filled the aquarium, still wanted plants... except he wanted no plants. lol.

It certainly could be clearer.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Captain Flappy:

Originally posted by aeryn_sunsinger:

I had the same issue - the ghost said no bookcases and I thought she was complaining about having no bookcases so I kept adding them. Eventually I figured out she didn't want any bookcases.

I had the same with a fish, I thought he wanted plants, so I filled the aquarium, still wanted plants... except he wanted no plants. lol.

It certainly could be clearer.

It tells you what they want. If it says: No Plants... they want.. No Plants

I don't know how much clearer it can be without just repeating itself

[adamkkool]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by Captain Flappy:

I had the same with a fish, I thought he wanted plants, so I filled the aquarium, still wanted plants... except he wanted no plants. lol.

It certainly could be clearer.

It tells you what they want. If it says: No Plants... they want.. No Plants

I don't know how much clearer it can be without just repeating itself

Because it's generic enough that you can take it both ways. Is it saying "No plants" or "No, plants."

In my case too, the ghost says it wants a chimney sweep but next to it it says "plebian". They established that there are two types of ghosts, plebs and elites, and specially with the way two point labels everything it's always "super long and weird description" and then in parentheses (what it actually means). So when they asked for a chimney sweep, I just assumed it was flavor as to not to be housed with elite ghosts.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by adamkkool:

Originally posted by Kunovega:

It tells you what they want. If it says: No Plants... they want.. No Plants

I don't know how much clearer it can be without just repeating itself

Because it's generic enough that you can take it both ways. Is it saying "No plants" or "No, plants."

First of all, there's no comma. You putting one there is again: you reading it wrong.

It's a want.

Want: Plant (want's plants)

Want: No plants (want's... no... plants)

For you to come back and be like, does it mean "no, plants" ? It's not what it says, maybe read what it actually says. It's not ambiguous, at all. You're inventing other words or punctuation that aren't there just to guess at another meaning instead of reading it, verbatim.

In my case too, the ghost says it wants a chimney sweep but next to it it says "plebian". They established that there are two types of ghosts, plebs and elites, and specially with the way two point labels everything it's always "super long and weird description" and then in parentheses (what it actually means). So when they asked for a chimney sweep, I just assumed it was flavor as to not to be housed with elite ghosts.

This isn't ambiguous either. The mistake is once again: you assumed something instead of reading it exactly as written.

A chimney sweep (plebian) is a specific ghost.

Plebian and Elite are categories of ghost and within each there are specific types. It literally gave you extra information and you were still making incorrect assumptions.

If it only asked for plebian, it could have been any plebian, by asking specifically for chimney sweep, it's asking for a specific plebian.

Just like if something asks for plants, it can be any plant. Or it could name a very specific plant that it wants.

OR... it could want: NO PLANTS

Stop making assumptions and start reading it exactly for what it says they want and you'll stop having these problems.

[adamkkool]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Originally posted by adamkkool:

Because it's generic enough that you can take it both ways. Is it saying "No plants" or "No, plants."

First of all, there's no comma. You putting one there is again: you reading it wrong.

It's a want.

Want: Plant (want's plants)

Want: No plants (want's... no... plants)

For you to come back and be like, does it mean "no, plants" ? It's not what it says, maybe read what it actually says. It's not ambiguous, at all. You're inventing other words or punctuation that aren't there just to guess at another meaning instead of reading it, verbatim.

In my case too, the ghost says it wants a chimney sweep but next to it it says "plebian". They established that there are two types of ghosts, plebs and elites, and specially with the way two point labels everything it's always "super long and weird description" and then in parentheses (what it actually means). So when they asked for a chimney sweep, I just assumed it was flavor as to not to be housed with elite ghosts.

This isn't ambiguous either. The mistake is once again: you assumed something instead of reading it exactly as written.

A chimney sweep (plebian) is a specific ghost.

Plebian and Elite are categories of ghost and within each there are specific types. It literally gave you extra information and you were still making incorrect assumptions.

If it only asked for plebian, it could have been any plebian, by asking specifically for chimney sweep, it's asking for a specific plebian.

Just like if something asks for plants, it can be any plant. Or it could name a very specific plant that it wants.

OR... it could want: NO PLANTS

Stop making assumptions and start reading it exactly for what it says they want and you'll stop having these problems.

I did read it exactly as it said, and it said it needed a plebian, which was not what it actually ment.

so uhh fook off mate :^)