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What is the chance to get a pristine exhibit?
Honestly, I'm at a loss. Not sure if this is just comfirmation bias, but every time I'm fishing for the last pristine exhibit I only get an epic. I'm at 160% survey level and still, the two I already have at pristine come back pristine, but the last one comes back epic at least 5-6 times.

This happend with multiple exhibits in the past. Not sure if there is some hidden mechanic behind this system or if I'm just unlucky. Although still kinda weird that this happens with 160%.

And yes, I'm at survey level 3.
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HotCoffeeDude 3 月 17 日 上午 9:38 
I don't get it. I've got the same: completed survey with +1 exhibit quality from Sneaky Survey, and +1 exhibit quality from detailed, and I'm still getting "great" level exhibits back. Isn't great level 2 anyways - average/great/epic/pristine? Do they not stack? Is it just completely random?
最後修改者:HotCoffeeDude; 3 月 17 日 上午 9:53
Valar Morghulis 3 月 17 日 上午 10:02 
I usally only get great exhibits if it's my first excursion, because you need a survey level of 3 to get pristine. But this also is kinda wrong, because I get pristine exhibits on my first try sometimes.
Jehsee Da Bunn 3 月 17 日 上午 10:23 
I have been starting to think that either the descriptions are not clear, or something is wrong with this as well after 120 hours.

The way it is written, the max you should be able to get something on your first survey, regardless of your outgoing survey level is Great, but I too sometimes bring back Pristines on my first mission. As you increase up the survey levels, it should go to a max Epic to a max Pristine, which means that at any level you should be able to bring back an Average or Great, at Epic you should be able to bring back an Average, Great, or Epic, and at Pristine you might bring back anything, but I have just as good a chance of bringing back an Epic or Pristine at Great level or a Pristine at Epic. It's either not working as intended, or the description of "Max Epic" and such is irrelevant and needs to be rewritten to more accurately reflect what can be expected on expeditions.

Also just for clarity, the multi-piece chance descriptions just plain need to be rewritten. Too many people are expecting a chance to get a base part at Pristine when a base part will always be Average even if the survey level is maxed out and the POI is at Pristine level.
Mushika 3 月 17 日 上午 10:39 
引用自 HotCoffeeDude
I don't get it. I've got the same: completed survey with +1 exhibit quality from Sneaky Survey, and +1 exhibit quality from detailed, and I'm still getting "great" level exhibits back. Isn't great level 2 anyways - average/great/epic/pristine? Do they not stack? Is it just completely random?
As far as I am concerned, the menu tells you only 1 guaranteed event and might be a 2nd event if you are lucky. So if you got a chance of +1 quality from the region and +1 quality from survey and only got great, it means only 1 event triggered, and it boosted average into great.
A tip from me: After realizing this I now realized, intentionally reducing the chance of events (positive or negative) in general and aiming only survey bonus would drastically increasing my chance getting pristine
critterannie 3 月 17 日 上午 11:02 
When you choose your staff, any that have the "photographic memory" trait will contribute to your survey %, but I believe there must be a contribution to the rank of the found exhibit as well. I always try to bring as many people with that trait as I can, then choose the longest length exhibition. This usually means higher quality exhibits, but not always.
HotCoffeeDude 3 月 17 日 上午 11:56 
引用自 Mushika
As far as I am concerned, the menu tells you only 1 guaranteed event and might be a 2nd event if you are lucky. So if you got a chance of +1 quality from the region and +1 quality from survey and only got great, it means only 1 event triggered, and it boosted average into great.

If this is true, I'm starting to think I'd have a better chance of getting Pristine from a 100% surveyed location by using the "speedy" option, and making 4x the number of trips vs the 1 detailed expedition (5 days vs 20~ days).

EDIT: This appears to work. Distribution of quality felt about the same, except I did end up with at least 1 Average which I don't think I ever got from Detailed. Still got at least one of each item as Pristine. I leveled my analysis expert by topping exhibit knowledge + filled my bank account from selling the excess. And it didn't feel nearly as punishing waiting for each mission to return. With this result I don't see any reason to continue to use Detailed once you've completed survey, unless they change it or fix it somehow.

Random rolling to complete these things does kind of drain the fun out the game a little, esp when you have to do so many.
最後修改者:HotCoffeeDude; 3 月 17 日 下午 12:43
Valar Morghulis 3 月 17 日 下午 12:34 
引用自 critterannie
When you choose your staff, any that have the "photographic memory" trait will contribute to your survey %, but I believe there must be a contribution to the rank of the found exhibit as well. I always try to bring as many people with that trait as I can, then choose the longest length exhibition. This usually means higher quality exhibits, but not always.

As I said before, I do surveys with 140-160% increase and I still get the same exhibit as epic instead of pristine. The other two are always pristine. So I'm guessing that some exhibits need a higher "roll" to go from epic to pristine.
boohboomagoo 3 月 17 日 下午 6:14 
Yeah comments are not super clear-

TL:DR - it's random.

for a higher chance have a higher percent explored (lvl3 max) PLUS - you get a bonus for doing detailed exploration PLUS, an even higher roll chance bonus with research into the binoculars with said researcher, PLUS also choose bonus survey scanner for extra +50% bonus - If you stack multiple combos, I almost always pull a perfect exhibit - exception is those exhibits that require multi-pieces. those will never pull anything higher than good until the whole exhibit is assembled; then it automatically goes to pristine.
Jay Ren 3 月 18 日 上午 3:27 
Only tip I can give, is make sure you minimise all events, even good, that arn't "+ quality". A detailed expedition only gets 2 events., if you hit a shortcut and an xp bonus, no +quality for you, and your just hoping on the base chance.
引用自 Jay Ren
Only tip I can give, is make sure you minimise all events, even good, that arn't "+ quality". A detailed expedition only gets 2 events., if you hit a shortcut and an xp bonus, no +quality for you, and your just hoping on the base chance.

What's the point of +% in survey level tho, if all you need is +exhibit quality. Would be nice if a dev could clear this up.
Jay Ren 3 月 18 日 上午 11:31 
引用自 Valar Morghulis
引用自 Jay Ren
Only tip I can give, is make sure you minimise all events, even good, that arn't "+ quality". A detailed expedition only gets 2 events., if you hit a shortcut and an xp bonus, no +quality for you, and your just hoping on the base chance.

What's the point of +% in survey level tho, if all you need is +exhibit quality. Would be nice if a dev could clear this up.

It improves the max roll as you level up servay, and unlocks sneaky servay events from the looks of things.

Once you've leveled an area to the cap though, I don't think +servay % does anything
Good Old Gamer 3 月 20 日 上午 6:50 
the Expedition LEVEL only increases the CHANCE of getting
anything above Average... the higher the level... the higher the chance.. its not a definate thing (unless a dev can give input on this?)
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