The way out NG+

[Ak2]

Is it even beatable on extreme? I mean i cant beat it at all, and not even talking about 3gold stars it... I believe its only beatable if you mess with the gamefiles...

Can anyone check and confirm that?

[Marbur]

All missions are beatable on extrem in normal mode and in plus mode. But sometimes you need to do other missions first to get better gear and more XP-levels.

[Ak2]

Ive everything except 1 armor. Tried every setup possible... Still cant even beat it.

[Marbur]

Hm, I tried it and failed in the last wave.
I did it in the old non HD-Version.
But I' still not having the best bow and armors in the HD-Version. I will do a new try when I have the best gear.

[Marbur]

Originally posted by Whisperling:

A lot of enhanced equipment in the old DQ didn't actually do anything, due to a glitch.

It should be easier now that everything works.

You are optimistic. I think the devs have still some bugs and problems to solve.

Perhaps I'm getting old, but I think it's now definitly harder.
I failed in the last wave a few times and searched for solutions, I was surprised to find a video where somebody did it in the old version with rangers and knights at level 48.
I did not find a solution to survive the last wave in HD till now, but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to do it with level 48 chars in HD.

[Marbur]

I found another thread about this map, nobody did answer it, so I think many people have issues with this challenge.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/218410/discussions/0/358415206086044990/

[Marbur]

OK, I got it.

You have to reskill your char and army for this map. Normally I have two blocker knights in my army, I changed them to Damage Dealers.

Skills
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722384166

Gear:
I think Crystal Patch and Chain Lightning are a must have on this map for ng+ extrem.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722384278

Fight
The knights are always targeting the strongest with the secondary option cheapest.
The rangers are targeting most time the fastest with the only scondaray targeting option cheapest. Targeting best chance was the most time off.

Don't wait with chain lightning to long, always use it when many enemies on the screen.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722384755

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722384928

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722385098

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=722385360

[Ak2]

Worked perfectly at my first try... Turns out... i need to change my spells, and books. Thats it :)

[pendragon77]

Thanks for the guide and screenshots!
With their help I optimized my positioning and also changed my targeting according to yours.
Thus -finally, ... finally! - I beat this map in NG+ with 3 gold stars.
But I had other books - "Book of Bood" and "Slow End"
FYI, My knights were skilled for max knockback and stun, my archers for max crit and range (Everyone is LvL 60 oc)

[Nosteru]

Originally posted by Marbur:

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I know this is a Necro, but as your tactic still work as for today I need to say:

MANY THANKS!

I tried that map like 20 times with different approach and I only managed to Wave 14 from 15.

So to everyone who will find this thread please try Marbur's tactic and setup. It work very well.

[gjhall99]

I agree with you, some of these levels are beyond frustrating. The one you are mentioning you can only use archers and knights (no healing) yet several waves of attacking creatures do a lot of damage (cultist). I have max armor on my knights and they still get owned (killed even if i'm trying to use the heal spell, the cooldown makes it impossible. My knights also have max counter and still die when there are 20 red cultist moving at a snails pace hitting them. The fast Worms are another challenge where my archers seem to be blind and miss them 70% of the time. Sad really, i loved the game until these levels, left a bad impression with me.

[Wisp]

Originally posted by gjhall99:

I agree with you, some of these levels are beyond frustrating. The one you are mentioning you can only use archers and knights (no healing) yet several waves of attacking creatures do a lot of damage (cultist). I have max armor on my knights and they still get owned (killed even if i'm trying to use the heal spell, the cooldown makes it impossible. My knights also have max counter and still die when there are 20 red cultist moving at a snails pace hitting them. The fast Worms are another challenge where my archers seem to be blind and miss them 70% of the time. Sad really, i loved the game until these levels, left a bad impression with me.

If you need healing, that's what Azra's spell is for. You can always reset your skillpoints and try different builds to help push through it, both for Azra, the archers and the knights.

Alternatively you could set EXP gain to 300% and do some levels to overcome it with sturdier defenders who have higher stats.

And if that doesn't work, you can load up NG+, go buy gear at the shops there, then come back to the level outside of NG+.