The level balancing on PvP is a joke.

[Swordwind]

It cannot be that hard to balance matches better, other games do it. The consistent pattern of level 1 and 2 vs 5+ is ridiculous.

[FromChaosTheory]

Perks don't travel over to PVP is what I was told. Why does the level matter.

[Alcyonaria]

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

Perks don't travel over to PVP is what I was told. Why does the level matter.

weapon choice is dictated by level

[Vrakos Anthrakir]

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

Perks don't travel over to PVP is what I was told. Why does the level matter.

more experience playing positively correlates with higher skill

[Swordwind]

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

Perks don't travel over to PVP is what I was told. Why does the level matter.

You gain the levels I am talking about by playing pvp matches. If you don't understand why those levels matter, it's hard to believe you're literate.

[Thanous]

Originally posted by FromChaosTheory:

Perks don't travel over to PVP is what I was told. Why does the level matter.

Is it your job to shill for the game? If its so good why are you always here instead of playing it

[Cody]

This is kinda stupid, why are low levels like us being paired up with very high leveled players who do nothing but just curbstomp pubs and whatnot, it isn't fair for people who want to gain veterancy points to level up and unlock weapons.

We barely get any XP or rewards from it. This game might die if they don't fix matchmaking LOL.

[Swordwind]

Originally posted by Cody:

This is kinda stupid, why are low levels like us being paired up with very high leveled players who do nothing but just curbstomp pubs and whatnot, it isn't fair for people who want to gain veterancy points to level up and unlock weapons.

We barely get any XP or rewards from it. This game might die if they don't fix matchmaking LOL.

Since PvP will be the main replayability factor you are 120% right.

[DavidSOONobiwan]

Yea its stupid for now. No lvl restriction or MM. 1lvl players are melted 15-20lvl + players. One thing is certain, in this case the game ends very quickly. And one can then find a more balanced game

[Merthaw]

This is still very much an issue. Thought I would give PvP a shot. Lost 6 out of 6 matches, with lower levels always weighted towards my team. None of the matches were even close; all 100+ point losses.

[Swordwind]

Originally posted by Merthaw:

This is still very much an issue. Thought I would give PvP a shot. Lost 6 out of 6 matches, with lower levels always weighted towards my team. None of the matches were even close; all 100+ point losses.

It gets exponentially worse as some people stay on and get better than 95 percent of everyone else then play in cliches.

[KaramxL]

git gud

[Mikazuki]

just gonna say i play tactical and only use auto gun bolt. one of the early weapons the game gives u as u level. i actually prefer most of the first guns on all classes due to the fast reload of the bolter. just learn how to use cover

[Mackintoke]

Originally posted by Merthaw:

This is still very much an issue. Thought I would give PvP a shot. Lost 6 out of 6 matches, with lower levels always weighted towards my team. None of the matches were even close; all 100+ point losses.

This is because of stacked teams, usually. If no one leaves the matchmaking session then you are stuck with the noob team while the pro team destroys you. The game doesn't remix teams between each match. So you quit that matchmaking session and find a better one.

[Danson]

Originally posted by Swordwind:

Originally posted by Merthaw:

This is still very much an issue. Thought I would give PvP a shot. Lost 6 out of 6 matches, with lower levels always weighted towards my team. None of the matches were even close; all 100+ point losses.

It gets exponentially worse as some people stay on and get better than 95 percent of everyone else then play in cliches.

It does not take long to reach higher levels, and you don't magically stop losing once you have "experience". You can back out of matchmaking for a reason, if you wanna cherry pick matches against level 1 teams you are free to do so. I do just fine against level 25 opponents, and I've seen level 5 opponents rack up 20-30 kills a match multiple matches in a row.

[Swordwind]

Originally posted by Danson:

Originally posted by Swordwind:

It gets exponentially worse as some people stay on and get better than 95 percent of everyone else then play in cliches.

It does not take long to reach higher levels, and you don't magically stop losing once you have "experience". You can back out of matchmaking for a reason, if you wanna cherry pick matches against level 1 teams you are free to do so. I do just fine against level 25 opponents, and I've seen level 5 opponents rack up 20-30 kills a match multiple matches in a row.

OK, experienced predator packs won't put off new players at all, the differential in skill and experience won't grow with the length time since game release, it's all good.