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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:53am
What's the point of bulwark shield in PvE?
In the description it says it blocks all parryable attacks, but in practice, this seems to not be the case at all. Any blue glowing attack will still hit you and makes me question what the purpose of the shield even is, as it makes me feel more vulnerable having it up and being slow than just keeping it down and focus on parrying/dodging and makes the class feel overall awful to play to me
Last edited by Tacticowl; Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:55am
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Originally posted by Draescan:
Originally posted by Femboy Hooter:
Originally posted by Draescan:


I understand, however I'd like to point out you should basically never be standing there just blocking melee attacks. Ever. There's 0 reason to do so. That shield is there for ranged enemies and ranged enemies only. Otherwise, you should be looking to hit perfect dodges and parries nonstop to control the horde around you. Bulwarks every 120 seconds get a perk later that lets them INSTANTLY execute anything extremis or below. It's insanely powerful. You just have to get super comfy with the melee combat.
Makes sense, but I think I'd rather play a class that kills enemies better. Dead enemies can't do damage. Maybe I'll try out Heavy or Sniper then, I'm better at ranged weapons anyhow.

Maybe I'll give Bulwark another chance once I put more time into this game, but atm I just feel like dead weight to my team and wishing I would've picked Sniper because If I did, all the Majoris that just ganged up on me would already have been dead and would've saved my team a lot of health. I'm struggling with Bulwark even on the lowest difficulty and just feel like a banner slave :stress:


Hahaha, you'll get the hang of it. Bulwark & Heavy have a lot of carry over in that you need to be good at parrying and perfect dodging because when things get crazy inevitably you'll end up engaging in those mechanics whether you're ready for it or not. Very much a school of hard knocks type scenario. If you want a +1 for the game feel free to add me.
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Doomvora Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:55am 
Blocking ranged attacks and blocking melee swings.
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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Doomvora:
Blocking ranged attacks and blocking melee swings.
Not helpful
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Voodoo Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:58am 
You raise shield during sprint thus you block attacks of enemies you close on. Amazing against warriors with devourers.
Last edited by Voodoo; Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:59am
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Doomvora Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Femboy Hooter:
Not helpful
You literally asked what the purpose of it was, I told you the purpose.
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Canis Furens Sep 15, 2024 @ 10:59am 
There's a perk that makes the shield more powefull that allows you to block stronger attacks
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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by Voodoo:
You raise shield during sprint thus you block attacks of enemies you close on. Amazing against warriors with devourers.
This seems to have been the only use I found for the shield so far, as blocking small enemies while they surround you and chip away at your health and hit you with grab attacks seems to be a waste of time when you could just slash at them.
Last edited by Tacticowl; Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:01am
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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by Canis Furens:
There's a perk that makes the shield more powefull that allows you to block stronger attacks
That makes sense, thank you

Edit: Actually, I can not find any such perk in the perk tree. Are you sure about that?
Last edited by Tacticowl; Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:05am
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Voodoo Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:04am 
Originally posted by Femboy Hooter:
Originally posted by Voodoo:
You raise shield during sprint thus you block attacks of enemies you close on. Amazing against warriors with devourers.
This seems to have been the only use I found for the shield so far, as blocking small enemies while they surround you and chip away at your health and hit you with grab attacks seems to be a waste of time when you could just slash at them.
Yeah no block weapons are tragic why do you think block shield would be any better at that.
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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by Voodoo:
Originally posted by Femboy Hooter:
This seems to have been the only use I found for the shield so far, as blocking small enemies while they surround you and chip away at your health and hit you with grab attacks seems to be a waste of time when you could just slash at them.
Yeah no block weapons are tragic why do you think block shield would be any better at that.
Dude im new to the game, I don't even have any of those unlocked
Last edited by Tacticowl; Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:05am
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Rodi Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:06am 
As the description says, it will block parriable attacks. Note that the wording is block, not parry. If the attack is parriable and you are holding the shield, the attack will be blocked, not parried.
Shield negates all ranged attacks and melee attacks, as long as those are not unparriable.

Worth mentioning that you can still do normal parries, like other classes, by quickly taping the parry button instead of holding it.
Having a Shield doesn't mean you don't need to perfect parry often, in fact, perfect parries are very important for Bulwark.
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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:12am 
Originally posted by Rodi:
As the description says, it will block parriable attacks. Note that the wording is block, not parry. If the attack is parriable and you are holding the shield, the attack will be blocked, not parried.
Shield negates all ranged attacks and melee attacks, as long as those are not unparriable.
See, this is the issues im having. If I try to block a blue flashing attack, I just get hit through my shield. I'm trying to block them, it's just not really working. I'm not expecting it to parry, I'm expecting it to block, but it wont.
Last edited by Tacticowl; Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:13am
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Chief Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:13am 
bulwark is broken. solo compete max diff. mission on lvl 15
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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by Chief:
bulwark is broken. solo compete max diff. mission on lvl 15
Not helpful and off-topic. I never said Bulwark was bad. I asked what the point of the shield was, aka how do I use it effectively. I'll go ahead and be so nice as to refund you your jester
Last edited by Tacticowl; Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:19am
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Rodi Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:19am 
Originally posted by Femboy Hooter:
Originally posted by Rodi:
As the description says, it will block parriable attacks. Note that the wording is block, not parry. If the attack is parriable and you are holding the shield, the attack will be blocked, not parried.
Shield negates all ranged attacks and melee attacks, as long as those are not unparriable.
See, this is the issues im having. If I try to block a blue flashing attack, I just get hit through my shield. I'm trying to block them, it's just not really working. I'm not expecting it to parry, I'm expecting it to block, but it wont.
That's weird. I didn't notice anything like this when playing with Bulwark. Shield is blocking blue flashing attacks just fine.
Could it be lag?
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Tacticowl Sep 15, 2024 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Rodi:
Originally posted by Femboy Hooter:
See, this is the issues im having. If I try to block a blue flashing attack, I just get hit through my shield. I'm trying to block them, it's just not really working. I'm not expecting it to parry, I'm expecting it to block, but it wont.
That's weird. I didn't notice anything like this when playing with Bulwark. Shield is blocking blue flashing attacks just fine.
Could it be lag?
Latency? No, I usually have around 15-30 ping. Frame lag? Maybe, the game doesn't run all that great on my machine, hovering between 40 and 50 fps during fights.
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