Saber Interactive isn't as lore accurate as they say [SPOILERS!]

[Brandt Kane]

You said you were going to be faithful to the lore, Saber. You said you had this approved.

The story is fantastic, I will admit. But you tripped over your own feet right on the finish line.

Why is the Chaplain Leandros removing his helmet at the end of the game, Saber? Why wasn't he shot right then and there, Saber? It's forbidden for a Chaplain to remove their helmets around anyone except other Chaplains, SABER. Care to explain your monumental ♥♥♥♥-up, Saber?

Daddy Cavill would be disappointed in you...

[Mints]

Reasonably speaking he should have never made Chaplain in the first place since he violated the Codex by reporting Titus to the Inquisition instead of the acting Chaplain at the time.

[Walt von Keisel-Walther]

Originally posted by Brother Kane:

You said you were going to be faithful to the lore, Saber. You said you had this approved.

The story is fantastic, I will admit. But you tripped over your own feet right on the finish line.

Why is the Chaplain Leandros removing his helmet at the end of the game, Saber? Why wasn't he shot right then and there, Saber? It's forbidden for a Chaplain to remove their helmets around anyone except other Chaplains, SABER. Care to explain your monumental ♥♥♥♥-up, Saber?

Daddy Cavill would be disappointed in you...

Im pretty sure its only forbidden to remove the helmet when there are people who are NOT PART of the Chapter in the area, and even then, this is not the case on all Chapters. Salamanders for instance most likely don't have this practice.

[Legion]

Originally posted by Mints:

Reasonably speaking he should have never made Chaplain in the first place since he violated the Codex by reporting Titus to the Inquisition instead of the acting Chaplain at the time.

This.
They probably did it the way they did so those of us who played the first game could go "oh its that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥." TBH Leandros should've NEVER been a chaplain to begin with. Chaplains embody the very soul of the chapter...and he is very much not the "I understand our chapter and embody its full concept".

[Brandt Kane]

Originally posted by Mints:

Reasonably speaking he should have never made Chaplain in the first place since he violated the Codex by reporting Titus to the Inquisition instead of the acting Chaplain at the time.

Right? Dude should have been slapped into the void like...TWICE.

[Unexpected]

to be fair, the chaplain in question is such a mega jerk that he probably doesnt even care if the ultramarines have that helmet rule and knows he can get away with it around titus

[Mizonel]

Pretty sure they are allowed to remove helmets. Mandalorians in star wars are the ones who can't.

[Brandt Kane]

Originally posted by Walt von Keisel:

Originally posted by Brother Kane:

You said you were going to be faithful to the lore, Saber. You said you had this approved.

The story is fantastic, I will admit. But you tripped over your own feet right on the finish line.

Why is the Chaplain Leandros removing his helmet at the end of the game, Saber? Why wasn't he shot right then and there, Saber? It's forbidden for a Chaplain to remove their helmets around anyone except other Chaplains, SABER. Care to explain your monumental ♥♥♥♥-up, Saber?

Daddy Cavill would be disappointed in you...

Im pretty sure its only forbidden to remove the helmet when there are people who are NOT PART of the Chapter in the area, and even then, this is not the case on all Chapters. Salamanders for instance most likely don't have this practice.

Far as I'm aware from the Lorebooks, it says their 'order' which refers to the Chaplaincy itself. So Chaplains aren't able to reveal themselves to any of their own Chapter-Brothers unless they're a member of the Chaplaincy themselves. In fact I believe if I remember my books correctly it was stated by a Chaplain of the Ultramarines himself in the 'Honour and Iron' when they asked the dude why he never pops it off.

[Muppetops]

Angels of death on Warhammer tv Chaplin removes his helmet to talk in one scene to another blood Angel so maybe they can now lol

[BenShinobi]

Ultimately it's GW who controls the lore and gave a pass to the story here. The amount of times an author comes up with a thing that sounds cool and then ignored later down the line by GW it's not surprising. Rule of cool/dramatic effect prevails over what a relatively small proportion of the fanbase is aware of in previous lore.

Also ♥♥♥♥ Leandros.

[Brandt Kane]

Originally posted by BenShinobi:

Ultimately it's GW who controls the lore and gave a pass to the story here. The amount of times an author comes up with a thing that sounds cool and then ignored later down the line by GW it's not surprising. Rule of cool/dramatic effect prevails over what a relatively small proportion of the fanbase is aware of in previous lore.

Also ♥♥♥♥ Leandros.

While that is true, I'm really hoping GW doesn't go taking a page out of Blizzard's 'How to make WoW better' book and end up putting the 40K universe through Retcon Hell.

Also ♥♥♥♥ Leandros.

[Brandt Kane]

Originally posted by Muppetops:

Angels of death on Warhammer tv Chaplin removes his helmet to talk in one scene to another blood Angel so maybe they can now lol

I don't think I've seen that one. Then again I've been trying to avoid Subbing up to that ever since they decided to kick content creators in the teeth and pull a Nintendo on people who make their own and animations. i mean I get it's their IP but like....Let the fans create, man.

Edit: I won't lie. Pariah Nexus looks like a BANGER of a watch, though. At leave from what I've seen on Youtube.

[Oku]

You people really need to stop with this parasocial obsession with Cavil. He said he likes Warhammer and would like to play a character in a show about it and you're acting like he's your personal messiah.

[Brandt Kane]

Originally posted by Oku:

You people really need to stop with this parasocial obsession with Cavil. He said he likes Warhammer and would like to play a character in a show about it and you're acting like he's your personal messiah.

Heretic Spotted.

Opinion Discarded.

[Oku]

Originally posted by Brother Kane:

Originally posted by Oku:

You people really need to stop with this parasocial obsession with Cavil. He said he likes Warhammer and would like to play a character in a show about it and you're acting like he's your personal messiah.

Heretic Spotted.

Opinion Discarded.

If you're going to LARP then post minis.

[KingHalloween]

Each chapter and unit might act differently.

Just because in one book a Chaplain states that it doesn't make it true for all space marines forever.

Much like in real, vast, medieval organisations different knights would have different ways.

The 'Lore' represents things that happen - not unbreakable rules. There are many contexts in which a chaplain might NEED to remove his helmet for an immediate tactical reason, such as an illusion cast by a cunning foe.

Space Marines are super-competent, and that INCLUDES being somewhat flexible and equally individually capable of choosing moments to break protocol where needed - this is almost word for word the actual 'lesson' of the first game - Titus repeatedly breaks the rules to make certain necessary points.

Your suggestion that another loyal Space Marine might *shoot* his brother over an infraction as minor as removal of a helmet is actually the far more egregious mess of the lore - that would be unthinkable. Rather, the Chaplain might be called aside later by the Reclusiarch and given some penance etc.

Much like actual monastic orders.

Sabre have done absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever.