Threat minimal ?

[Zandres]

Why are the lowest difficulty settings so hard? Threat minimal only when compared to the hardest setting maybe. But i in no way am finding it minimal. After levelling up to 18 with master crafted weapons i still fail it half the time. Now i know i am not the best player,i am old and have arthritis in my hands. But can the lowest difficulty not be toned down just a bit.

[calebking707]

no, the difficulty doesn't need to be toned down at all. by level 8 you can basically walk through the lowest difficulty. if you cant handle the absolute lowest dif then i'm sorry but its just not for you. my condolences.

[shithead]

Originally posted by calebking707:

no, the difficulty doesn't need to be toned down at all. by level 8 you can basically walk through the lowest difficulty. if you cant handle the absolute lowest dif then i'm sorry but its just not for you. my condolences.

This is a troll, don't read it.

The mobs and difficulties in this game are balanced around max level and max level guns. Once you get there, it's a walk in the park. BUT, until then, everything feels very overtuned.

[Zandres]

Originally posted by calebking707:

no, the difficulty doesn't need to be toned down at all. by level 8 you can basically walk through the lowest difficulty. if you cant handle the absolute lowest dif then i'm sorry but its just not for you. my condolences.

But when i am failing the other two people with me are failing .So is the game not for them ? Seems this game is not for a lot of people.Or maybe the difficulty of the lower settings needs toned down. And you can play on the harder settings.

[Monk]

The biggest problem with the leveling / difficulty is that you need to beat the hardest difficulty to get the best guns, which will always hold back players who are struggling far more than anyone else.

They should change it so that you can get the higher tiers unlocked by using more if the lower tier tokens atleast.

As for those truly struggling on the easiest tier, maybe try a different loadout?

If you want it FAR easier, try the Bulwark for melee or taking the melta guns, they pretty much trivilise ruthless vs bolters, let alone easy.

[Squirt Games]

Originally posted by thomasmcintyre369:

Why are the lowest difficulty settings so hard? Threat minimal only when compared to the hardest setting maybe. But i in no way am finding it minimal. After levelling up to 18 with master crafted weapons i still fail it half the time. Now i know i am not the best player,i am old and have arthritis in my hands. But can the lowest difficulty not be toned down just a bit.

I'm sorry to say this because I really hate when people say it but this is genuinely an issue of skill (OR, possibly an issue with loadout as another user here said.), as others have said a level'd up character with mastered weapons should have 0 issues literally strolling through the lowest difficulty. I play average difficulty on my lvl 19 to relax. I dont even play the lowest difficulty anymore on lvl 1 characters im starting because I have an upgraded bolt pistol and/or chainsword to fall back on with them, I start them out on average too and do not struggle much at all. If you are severely struggling on a leveled character in the lowest difficulty you might simply lack the mechanical means to play this game (You said you had arthritis, so it is a genuine possibility.) or you are playing a class that simply does not gel with you at all.

Consider trying the bulwark, they are almost impossible to kill even if you play poorly, I know from much experience lol.

Rather than tone down the lowest difficulty, I think they should improve the bots so you are able to succeed with them even if you as a player struggle to engage with the game mechanics well, for reasons of skill or reasons of mechanical inability, like disabilities.

TLDR: Try a different class, maybe bulwark for its tankiness. If you cannot do okay at threat minimal with a leveled character you may not have the mechanical ability to engage with this game, or are playing a class that you do not gel with mechanically.

[[TOTA] Zek]

If you cant handle minimal threat, well, you gotta hit those trials as much as you can!

[Monk]

Some of the trials being far harder than minimal will cause a issue with that idea.

[Cairn.L]

Maybe you play the wrong class, try other classes to see which suits you better.

[Squirt Games]

Originally posted by dumbass:

Originally posted by calebking707:

no, the difficulty doesn't need to be toned down at all. by level 8 you can basically walk through the lowest difficulty. if you cant handle the absolute lowest dif then i'm sorry but its just not for you. my condolences.

This is a troll, don't read it.

The mobs and difficulties in this game are balanced around max level and max level guns. Once you get there, it's a walk in the park. BUT, until then, everything feels very overtuned.

Even if you know they're a troll from other posts in the discussion board I still think their opinion is fair. I understand that we need to try our best to avoid ableism and try to make most video games enjoyable for everyone, including those with limited mechanical ability, but this game is not hard at the lowest difficulty once you have a leveled character. If someone fails half of the time to get through the lowest difficulty on an overleveled character they are either unfit to play this game or are playing a class that they do not sync with at all. Sometimes all you can tell a person is "This experience might not be for you."

[Squirt Games]

Originally posted by thomasmcintyre369:

Originally posted by calebking707:

no, the difficulty doesn't need to be toned down at all. by level 8 you can basically walk through the lowest difficulty. if you cant handle the absolute lowest dif then i'm sorry but its just not for you. my condolences.

But when i am failing the other two people with me are failing .So is the game not for them ? Seems this game is not for a lot of people.Or maybe the difficulty of the lower settings needs toned down. And you can play on the harder settings.

A team is only as strong as it's weakest link. When their weakest link is failing at the lowest difficulty, trouble has the potential to arise. Especially if they are at at the appropriate level for that difficulty, meaning it is likely challenging for them too

[76561199754241096]

stop whining and get good

[Eddie Krueger]

I'd recommend Vanguard with Meltagun. Sure, that's mainly melee, and I absolutely s*ck at melee, but I'm yet to go down with Vanguard on Minimal diff. The Melta melts down everything to Executable state in front of you in 4 shots, maybe five for Extremis enemies, but 3 is enough most of the time. And the Mastercrafted versions both raise damage even further, and you can choose between more range or more ammo.

Also, get Krak grenades when you can. They stick to uglies, and immediately brings down Majoris enemies. Just beware of throwing them while there are no trash mobs between you and your target, because then you waste your 'nade.

[EmperorVolo]

Originally posted by thomasmcintyre369:

Why are the lowest difficulty settings so hard? Threat minimal only when compared to the hardest setting maybe. But i in no way am finding it minimal. After levelling up to 18 with master crafted weapons i still fail it half the time. Now i know i am not the best player,i am old and have arthritis in my hands. But can the lowest difficulty not be toned down just a bit.

It's not even remotely hard. I consider it Minimal = Very Easy. I have no idea how you could fail at all. Usually end with full life. I can't even imagine how you are failing.

[Eddie Krueger]

Originally posted by Volo:

Originally posted by thomasmcintyre369:

Why are the lowest difficulty settings so hard? Threat minimal only when compared to the hardest setting maybe. But i in no way am finding it minimal. After levelling up to 18 with master crafted weapons i still fail it half the time. Now i know i am not the best player,i am old and have arthritis in my hands. But can the lowest difficulty not be toned down just a bit.

It's not even remotely hard. I consider it Minimal = Very Easy. I have no idea how you could fail at all. Usually end with full life. I can't even imagine how you are failing.

Melee punishes you severely for not having pinpoint accurate timing, and you reguarly find yourself surrounded, that's how. Oh, you failed to dodge a Tyranid Warriors heavy attack? Here's three more of that if you don't dodge in that exact split second you recovered from the stun.

[Dr. Rockso]

Minimal is a piece of cake after you get the timing down which you will need to get down if you ever want to play on the higher difficulties.