Heavy Plasma sucks?

[McDinglefart]

Long charge, slow projectile... There's no excitement using it and I die in places with it where I would be taking a nap with my melta.
It is just bad?
I can only see advantage against second mission boss. But for anything else, it just a chore to level it up.
Still purple, failed 3-4 missions in a row on final stage of ruthless (max difficulty) today.
Somehow I doubt orange weapon will improve heavy plasma rifle performance.
With pueple melta I don't remember having such difficulty running ruthless missions.

[Doomvora]

I felt it was amazing all the way through, but it's a difference in playstyle.

I run relic heavy plasma on ruthless and it feels extremely good, felt good on artificer too.

You're not a frontliner like you are with the melta, you can one tap majoris enemies with a single charged shot with relic weapons, 2 for artificer, non charged shots one tap minoris (gaunts specifically, still need to hit tzaangors twice) enemies and aoe, combined with the bolt pistol, it's extremely effective.

[McDinglefart]

Originally posted by Doomvora:

I felt it was amazing all the way through, but it's a difference in playstyle.

I run relic heavy plasma on ruthless and it feels extremely good, felt good on artificer too.

You're not a frontliner like you are with the melta, you can one tap majoris enemies with a single charged shot with relic weapons, 2 for artificer, non charged shots one tap minoris (gaunts specifically, still need to hit tzaangors twice) enemies and aoe, combined with the bolt pistol, it's extremely effective.

nah, heavy plasma sucks. It has a single target dps, but it's too slow and cannot regen HP as melta. Can't even compare. And while it melts minoris it also staggers warriors etc. much better and kills entire crowds include warriors etc.
Melta is just much better weapon. Period.

[GeforceJoe]

I love it, I kick azz with it. All the weapons require a set of skills and builds for them to work best if you mix and match you get mixed results that don’t match

[Khalani]

It is an ok'ish weapon with a team that supports you, but melter is just such beast currently.
Heavy Bolter is also probably better, but there are worse weapons for other classes.

If you use heavy plasma, make sure you learn how to stomp without taking too much damage, you will probably need it^^

[Tiniturtle]

Originally posted by McDinglefart:

Long charge, slow projectile... There's no excitement using it and I die in places with it where I would be taking a nap with my melta.
It is just bad?
I can only see advantage against second mission boss. But for anything else, it just a chore to level it up.
Still purple, failed 3-4 missions in a row on final stage of ruthless (max difficulty) today.
Somehow I doubt orange weapon will improve heavy plasma rifle performance.
With pueple melta I don't remember having such difficulty running ruthless missions.

u just sleep with the melta gun for too long and get ur combat ability so dull that u cant use anything else

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by Tiniturtle:

Originally posted by McDinglefart:

Long charge, slow projectile... There's no excitement using it and I die in places with it where I would be taking a nap with my melta.
It is just bad?
I can only see advantage against second mission boss. But for anything else, it just a chore to level it up.
Still purple, failed 3-4 missions in a row on final stage of ruthless (max difficulty) today.
Somehow I doubt orange weapon will improve heavy plasma rifle performance.
With pueple melta I don't remember having such difficulty running ruthless missions.

u just sleep with the melta gun for too long and get ur combat ability so dull that u cant use anything else

truth
melta is broken thats the problem

[mookymook]

bittle

[Toosoft]

Originally posted by Tiniturtle:

Originally posted by McDinglefart:

Long charge, slow projectile... There's no excitement using it and I die in places with it where I would be taking a nap with my melta.
It is just bad?
I can only see advantage against second mission boss. But for anything else, it just a chore to level it up.
Still purple, failed 3-4 missions in a row on final stage of ruthless (max difficulty) today.
Somehow I doubt orange weapon will improve heavy plasma rifle performance.
With pueple melta I don't remember having such difficulty running ruthless missions.

u just sleep with the melta gun for too long and get ur combat ability so dull that u cant use anything else

so true i saw so many melta players running out of ammo and get mauled by 4 gaunts in high difficulty the same as sniper once they run out of ammo they don't know how to manage melee fight.

Originally posted by GeforceJoe:

I love it, I kick azz with it. All the weapons require a set of skills and builds for them to work best if you mix and match you get mixed results that don’t match

that my main issue with plasma weapons, you need class perks to make them decent, i love the feeling of the plasma weapons but hard to admit they suxx, the only benificial point is the no fallof damage and the guard break other than that the weapon is a bolter with less damage and ammunition, the fact that landing non charged head shot is almost impossible, or you have to do low charged shot but you loose so much dps by doing that, make the weapon really akward to use.

[Doomvora]

Originally posted by McDinglefart:

nah, heavy plasma sucks. It has a single target dps, but it's too slow and cannot regen HP as melta. Can't even compare. And while it melts minoris it also staggers warriors etc. much better and kills entire crowds include warriors etc.
Melta is just much better weapon. Period.

Go through ruthless with it with absolutely no issues.

[Niks]

That's why you need to learn how to play, before abusing melta-bug.