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mike_28 12 sep, 2024 @ 18:11

Don't play the game until they add female Space Girls

Before you lose it and call me "woke" listen up. There are people who have been discriminated for centuries, and we're finally at a point where we can start to make things right. How can you sit there and play a game made by devs who are openly sexist, while also refusing to add even a shred of diversity? What's the big deal with having a single marine who's intersex, lgbtq or female (they did it for custodes) in the game? Just one!

They could be on screen for five seconds, and it wouldn't hurt you at all. But it would mean the world to someone who finally sees themselves represented. And who’s really the snowflake if that idea gets under your skin? They don't even need to be the main character! It blows my mind that anyone would back a game that's deliberately pandering to right-wing values. Do you even know what you're supporting, or did some World of Warcraft YouTuber just tell you to buy it?

By playing this game, you're choosing to marginalize people who deserve better. That's the point. I get that some will read this and say they don’t care, but maybe, just maybe, try putting yourself in someone else’s shoes for once. All it takes is a little empathy. You don’t have to agree with them, but recognize that representation helps people feel less alone. It's sad that you're actively standing against that.

Senast ändrad av mike_28; 14 sep, 2024 @ 17:47

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The_Dipl0mat har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 1:26

Ursprungligen skrivet av octimus787:
bro great news games workshop erased female custodes

Both authors (Gav Thorpe and Guy Hayley) have confirmed women in the Custodes still exist

#1246

DrunknMaster har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 1:27

if you want a female character create a mod for it yourself than play it but dont try to force your believes onto other who love the Lore and the Game

#1247

Chaoslord 87 har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 1:41

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Dipl0mat:
Both authors (Gav Thorpe and Guy Hayley) have confirmed women in the Custodes still exist

That may be true but I think many have problems with female Custodes because how careless and without much thought GW threw them into existing Lore much like the Primaris.

No slow build up or hints in any Book or other Sourcematerial and then they got suddenly snapped into existense. The sudden introduction of the Primaris was equally disliked for the same reasons.

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The_Dipl0mat har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 1:47

Ursprungligen skrivet av Chaoslord 87:
Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Dipl0mat:
Both authors (Gav Thorpe and Guy Hayley) have confirmed women in the Custodes still exist

That may be true but I think many have problems with female Custodes because how careless and without much thought GW threw them into existing Lore much like the Primaris.

No slow build up or hints in any Book or other Sourcematerial and then they got suddenly snapped into existense. The sudden introduction of the Primaris was equally disliked for the same reasons.

I mean, that's also the case with most other retcons as well. Its not really exclusive to either of those examples. As the same thing could be said for Centurions, the Rogal Dorn, Dark Imperium, ect ect

Though at the same time, people may be new to Warhammer and have only gotten their information from sources that like to not exactly present their stance in a faithful way. And thus be unaware of the type of retcons Warhammer frequently sees.

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Chaoslord 87 har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 2:47

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Dipl0mat:
I mean, that's also the case with most other retcons as well. Its not really exclusive to either of those examples. As the same thing could be said for Centurions, the Rogal Dorn, Dark Imperium, ect ect

Though at the same time, people may be new to Warhammer and have only gotten their information from sources that like to not exactly present their stance in a faithful way. And thus be unaware of the type of retcons Warhammer frequently sees.

Also true.
But as I said before, I vastly prefer a "something is coming" approach in terms of Lore and storytelling over several books instead of a "Here I am! Deal with it!" situation.

Just personal preference.

Senast ändrad av Chaoslord 87; 4 jan @ 3:22

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The_Dipl0mat har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 2:53

Ursprungligen skrivet av Chaoslord 87:
Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Dipl0mat:
I mean, that's also the case with most other retcons as well. Its not really exclusive to either of those examples. As the same thing could be said for Centurions, the Rogal Dorn, Dark Imperium, ect ect

Though at the same time, people may be new to Warhammer and have only gotten their information from sources that like to not exactly present their stance in a faithful way. And thus be unaware of the type of retcons Warhammer frequently sees.

Also true.
But as I said before, I vastly prefer a "something is coming" appproach in terms of Lore and storytelling over several books instead of a "Here I am! Deal with it!" situation.

Just personal preference.

N' that's fair enough. I guess I just find it confusing to make one specific instance a big deal when it's but one in a countless sea. I understand lamenting it as "oh great, another retcon" a bit though. Which has become a lot more valid since GWs kinda settled into the lore and doesn't shake it up as much.

#1251

SnuffSaid

4 jan @ 3:14

Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Dipl0mat:
Though at the same time, people may be new to Warhammer and have only gotten their information from sources that like to not exactly present their stance in a faithful way. And thus be unaware of the type of retcons Warhammer frequently sees.

The irony is so palpable I practically choked on it.

Mr. "I'm neutral and have no agenda, but have also dedicated my entire life to defending corporate wokism across multiple games using bad faith arguments".

The purpose of a retcon is supposed to be the spring cleaning of old bad ideas, there was nothing bad about the status quo of all the best soldiers being men, it's both realistic and caters to the existing market, which is over 90% men. It's one thing when GW is trying to improve their story and fails, like with Primaris, another thing entirely when they shoehorn something in just to be woke and it fails. Intention matters.

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The_Dipl0mat har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 3:20

Sure buddy :)

#1253

Overlord1993 har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 3:23

Ursprungligen skrivet av SnuffSaid:
Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Dipl0mat:
Though at the same time, people may be new to Warhammer and have only gotten their information from sources that like to not exactly present their stance in a faithful way. And thus be unaware of the type of retcons Warhammer frequently sees.

The irony is so palpable I practically choked on it.

Mr. "I'm neutral and have no agenda, but have also dedicated my entire life to defending corporate wokism across multiple games using bad faith arguments".

The purpose of a retcon is supposed to be the spring cleaning of old bad ideas, there was nothing bad about the status quo of all the best soldiers being men, it's both realistic and caters to the existing market, which is over 90% men. It's one thing when GW is trying to improve their story and fails, like with Primaris, another thing entirely when they shoehorn something in just to be woke and it fails. Intention matters.

I completely agree.

#1254

Autoro

4 jan @ 5:23

A very successful jester farm... Crop was real good.

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noblewarriorsf har Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

4 jan @ 9:53

Ursprungligen skrivet av SnuffSaid:
Ursprungligen skrivet av The_Dipl0mat:
Though at the same time, people may be new to Warhammer and have only gotten their information from sources that like to not exactly present their stance in a faithful way. And thus be unaware of the type of retcons Warhammer frequently sees.

The irony is so palpable I practically choked on it.

Mr. "I'm neutral and have no agenda, but have also dedicated my entire life to defending corporate wokism across multiple games using bad faith arguments".

The purpose of a retcon is supposed to be the spring cleaning of old bad ideas, there was nothing bad about the status quo of all the best soldiers being men, it's both realistic and caters to the existing market, which is over 90% men. It's one thing when GW is trying to improve their story and fails, like with Primaris, another thing entirely when they shoehorn something in just to be woke and it fails. Intention matters.

preach

#1256

Mtjeeves 6 jan @ 2:36

Ursprungligen skrivet av Autoro:
A very successful jester farm... Crop was real good.

Or he was just correct in what he said.

#1257

Tazz

6 jan @ 2:47

The Adepta Sororitas is woman space marine but they are to holly they drop church in the middle of war zone can you believe that a church man ...big church drop from the sky holly moly