Is the Stalker Bolter worth the grind for Tactical / Sniper?

[Chaoslord 87]

If yes, can you provide some viable Builds and weapon perks for them?

I was thinking along the lines of:
Tactical with Stalker and auspex geared for maximum damage as a sort of Anti Elite ie.
Extremis and Terminus.

And Sniper with Stalker as a more aggressive mid range combatant.

[Magus Magi]

For right now, I think it is. On the tactical, in particular, it affords him a bolt weapon with very strong ammo economy, good range, and a reasonable time-to-kill.

Approximately 5 headshots will stun a ranged tyranid warrior on Ruthless. For melee tyranid warriors, you're still in a position where you'll have to rely on the ability to parry-scan if you want to clear multiple quickly.

[Sloths]

So i decided to level the Stalker Bolt Rifle on my sniper. I took the variants for more ammo and any perks for additional ammo. I think at the end there were over 90 rounds. That's a lot of shooting. Took the perks to reduce camo cooldown with headshot kills and the perk for +75% damage first attack from cloak.
Cloak, target big guy wiping them out, find any minoris, headshot kill a few, cloak is back, and repeat the process. As long as you are consistent and reliable with headshots you can be attacking from cloak for the big damage bonus almost constantly. Another side effect I noticed from being in and out of cloak so much is how the enemies behave. Almost like ping pong. They are coming after you and you cloak. They get confused for a sec then head off back towards your teammates. Pick your target, fire, and here they come back again.
I started using that to my advantage to give myself some firing space or time to reposition by staying in cloak for a bit knowing that I could have the ability back up in almost no time.

[Orb]

I think it's the only good feeling weapon in the game, has pretty good damage

[Diktatorpanda]

On Tactical it is a solid weapon for 4/4, ammo dosent matter as much when you can refill a mag on every majoris execute.

[McDinglefart]

No. It's no good. Takes forever to kill anything except if you're sure you can headshot every single target.

[Birdof Hermes]

No,
Saw some people hype it up but.. its trash compared to Las Fusil and Nade launcher.

[Magni]

The Stalker is extremely good on Tactical as an elite/boss deleter as long as your aim is up to chaining headshots. Tactical also has tools to get around it's low ammo pool. Haven't tested it on the Sniper.

[McDinglefart]

Publicado originalmente por Birdof Hermes:

No,
Saw some people hype it up but.. its trash compared to Las Fusil and Nade launcher.

Even lvl 1 plasma incendiator does better job. I level up max stalker bolter and thought it was trash, then picked 1 lvl plasma incendiator and was able to kill majoris much quicker. At ruthless!

Publicado originalmente por Magni:

The Stalker is extremely good on Tactical as an elite/boss deleter as long as your aim is up to chaining headshots. Tactical also has tools to get around it's low ammo pool. Haven't tested it on the Sniper.

It's trash. Pay less attention what youtuber streamers says while trying to make content. It should be doing 50% more dmg as minimum to be viable option.

[Magni]

Publicado originalmente por McDinglefart:

Even lvl 1 plasma incendiator does better job. I level up max stalker bolter and thought it was trash, then picked 1 lvl plasma incendiator and was able to kill majoris much quicker. At ruthless!

1. Cool story, bro.
2. Skill issue. Stalker headshots hit just as hard as a Plasma Incinerator CHARGE shot at same level, and come out a lot faster.

It's trash. Pay less attention what youtuber streamers says while trying to make content. It should be doing 50% more dmg as minimum to be viable option.

Nah, that's you. And I'll pay more attention to my personal in-game experience than your bad take borne out of you not being able to click heads with a wepaon that is both highly accurate and very forgiving of mistakes due to its semi-auto firing rate.

[Kekuy]

Publicado originalmente por McDinglefart:

Even lvl 1 plasma incendiator does better job. I level up max stalker bolter and thought it was trash, then picked 1 lvl plasma incendiator and was able to kill majoris much quicker. At ruthless!

Skill issue. Stalker is perfectly fine for both sniper/tactical unless you are a braindead meta slave. Even when if they adjust the 2 sec lingering cloak perk to still provide bonus dmg stalker would become equal to fusil.

BTW plasma weapons are for the people that have 0 aim skills since no headshot multipliers so there's no need to aim. They are definitely fun to play though.

[Ishan451]

@OP
I think the Stalker Bolter is a very good weapon that rewards you for precision. It is a solid choice for the Sniper, if you want to have actual ammo and don't like being constantly ammo starved like you are with the Fusil and the Bolt Sniper.

For the Tactical it is a great precision bolt option that gives you quite a bit of range.


And today in our episode of things that didn't happen...

Publicado originalmente por McDinglefart:

I level up max stalker bolter and thought it was trash, then picked 1 lvl plasma incendiator and was able to kill majoris much quicker. At ruthless!

I've leveled both of them and the only way you can sell me on the grey plasma incenerator feeling better than a Relic level Stalker Bolter is if you are the worst shot in the world and sunk your entire magazin worth of charged shots into defeating that one majoris with your Plasma, leveraging the fact that you could kill them with the splash damage of the charged Plasma, because you couldn't hit the enemy.

Fully leveled up they are both very different weapons for a very different purpose in the game.

[McDinglefart]

Publicado originalmente por Ishan451:

@OP
I think the Stalker Bolter is a very good weapon that rewards you for precision. It is a solid choice for the Sniper, if you want to have actual ammo and don't like being constantly ammo starved like you are with the Fusil and the Bolt Sniper.

For the Tactical it is a great precision bolt option that gives you quite a bit of range.


And today in our episode of things that didn't happen...

Publicado originalmente por McDinglefart:

I level up max stalker bolter and thought it was trash, then picked 1 lvl plasma incendiator and was able to kill majoris much quicker. At ruthless!

I've leveled both of them and the only way you can sell me on the grey plasma incenerator feeling better than a Relic level Stalker Bolter is if you are the worst shot in the world and sunk your entire magazin worth of charged shots into defeating that one majoris with your Plasma, leveraging the fact that you could kill them with the splash damage of the charged Plasma, because you couldn't hit the enemy.

Fully leveled up they are both very different weapons for a very different purpose in the game.

hahaha... no.

You can play with your peashooter, I'll play with my melta/plasma and bolter grenadier which are many times better.

[Magni]

Publicado originalmente por McDinglefart:

hahaha... no.

You can play with your peashooter, I'll play with my melta/plasma and bolter grenadier which are many times better.

>guy gets called out on being bad at the game and spreading a bad take by three seperate players
>tripples down on his bad take
What clownish behaviour.

PS: That "peashooter" objectively delivers higher DPS against single targets than either the Melta or the Plasma Incinerator. Unless you're bad a clicking heads, that is. And none of what you said or will say is ever going to change that cold, hard fact. Try to learn to click heads instead of opening your mouth, it's gonna yield you better results.

[mikec_81]

On sniper - it is unlikely to get you much economy when Las Fusil exists. That weapon is just busted.

On tactical - it offers you good, but not great, stand off damage assuming you can land headshots. That sounds like damning with faint praise but when you combo that with the damage buffing scan and the fact that you have a good melee weapon in the chainsword, you become a very good jack of all that can handle any situation no problem.

It is likely objectively worse than just straight up grenade Tactical though outside corner cases where you can't kill majoris regularly for nade refills or you are somehow stuck shooting at stuff far enough away that the launcher can't reach well.

[Orb]

Not sure what the discussion is here. Anyone saying this weapon is bad has no clue how to play the game.