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Atcera Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:10am
Question about Bulwark Contested health with perks
So we all probably know that the lvl 8 perk gives full contested health plus reviving downed comrades. And the lvl 23 or 24 perk does the same without reviving teammates. Well this isn't about that.
So I played I think 2 missions with Bulwarks who put down the flag and it kept giving contested health. What do i mean by that? So Bulwark puts flag down, we get contested health, which is the standard function. But what I'm talking about is losing that contested health after leaving the flag aoe, going back into the aoe and getting full contested health again, over and over.
This was AFTER patch so it hasn't been changed. How do I replicate that?
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S4V6 Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:13am 
Your question is a bit all over the place.
Contested health isn't supposed to tick up and down. You are supposed to kill stuff while you have contested health (white health bar) in order for you to change that white bar into a red one.
That's the whole point of Bulwark.
PS: any class can get contested health when being hit by a heavy attack. You don't get it just from Bulwark's Banner
Last edited by S4V6; Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:16am
Driblex™ Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:17am 
That shouldn't be this way. The perk grants all mates in the area full contestent health when placed and only than. It does not regenerate health, only armor.

Either something else happened or it might be a bug.
Atcera Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:19am 
Originally posted by S4V6:
Your question is a bit all over the place.
Contested health isn't supposed to tick up and down. You are supposed to kill stuff while you have contested health (white health bar) in order for you to change that white bar into a red one.
That's the whole point of Bulwark.
PS: any class can get contested health when being hit by a heavy attack. You don't get it just from Bulwark's Banner
Health = Red
Contested health = White
White health keeps refilling when inside the AOE regardless if you lose it or not. That's what the question is about
S4V6 Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:22am 
Originally posted by Atcera:
Originally posted by S4V6:
Your question is a bit all over the place.
Contested health isn't supposed to tick up and down. You are supposed to kill stuff while you have contested health (white health bar) in order for you to change that white bar into a red one.
That's the whole point of Bulwark.
PS: any class can get contested health when being hit by a heavy attack. You don't get it just from Bulwark's Banner
Health = Red
Contested health = White
White health keeps refilling when inside the AOE regardless if you lose it or not. That's what the question is about

It's only white health and again you are supposed to kill stuff while you have contested health in order to turn that white bar into a red one.
It only works when the banner is down and while you are inside the banner's area of effect.

I don't think you understand how contested health works.

You question is still somewhat unspecified.

I still quite don't undestand what you want to replicate?
Driblex™ Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:27am 
Originally posted by Atcera:
Originally posted by S4V6:
Your question is a bit all over the place.
Contested health isn't supposed to tick up and down. You are supposed to kill stuff while you have contested health (white health bar) in order for you to change that white bar into a red one.
That's the whole point of Bulwark.
PS: any class can get contested health when being hit by a heavy attack. You don't get it just from Bulwark's Banner
Health = Red
Contested health = White
White health keeps refilling when inside the AOE regardless if you lose it or not. That's what the question is about

If it refilled white, contested health than it must be a bug. Again, the perk only grants full contested health for all mates in the area when placed. It does not regenerate contested health, only armor. If it did in your case, it must be a bug (or another perk from a different class but I can't think of anything right now that would fit the description)
Atcera Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by S4V6:

I don't think you understand how contested health works.

You question is still somewhat unspecified.

I still quite don't undestand what you want to replicate?

You get contested health when a bulwark puts down a flag yeah? Then you can attack and regain health before the contested health disappears. This is how it works normally if you take lvl 8 or 23 perk.
What I'm talking about is what I've seen happen only twice, Bulwark puts down the flag, we get the usual function, get clapped by enemy, lose health, go back into the flag aoe and get more contested (white) health. Because normally you only get that full contested health from the flag ONCE when it's dropped and you are in the AOE
S4V6 Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by Driblex™:
Originally posted by Atcera:
Health = Red
Contested health = White
White health keeps refilling when inside the AOE regardless if you lose it or not. That's what the question is about

If it refilled white, contested health than it must be a bug. Again, the perk only grants full contested health for all mates in the area when placed. It does not regenerate contested health, only armor. If it did in your case, it must be a bug (or another perk from a different class but I can't think of anything right now that would fit the description)

Could have been that he received full bar of contested health and left the banner area and got hit my a heavy attack which then would reduce your health bar but the contested health bar would reappear.
S4V6 Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:30am 
Originally posted by Atcera:
Originally posted by S4V6:

I don't think you understand how contested health works.

You question is still somewhat unspecified.

I still quite don't undestand what you want to replicate?

You get contested health when a bulwark puts down a flag yeah? Then you can attack and regain health before the contested health disappears. This is how it works normally if you take lvl 8 or 23 perk.
What I'm talking about is what I've seen happen only twice, Bulwark puts down the flag, we get the usual function, get clapped by enemy, lose health, go back into the flag aoe and get more contested (white) health. Because normally you only get that full contested health from the flag ONCE when it's dropped and you are in the AOE

In that case look at my reply bellow
Originally posted by S4V6:

Could have been that he received full bar of contested health and left the banner area and got hit my a heavy attack which then would reduce your health bar but the contested health bar would reappear.
Could it be that you were hit by a warrior while you left the and re-entered the area of effect?
because then it would refill your contested health back up maybe not to full but 3/4 of that
Last edited by S4V6; Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:32am
Driblex™ Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:31am 
Originally posted by S4V6:
Originally posted by Driblex™:

If it refilled white, contested health than it must be a bug. Again, the perk only grants full contested health for all mates in the area when placed. It does not regenerate contested health, only armor. If it did in your case, it must be a bug (or another perk from a different class but I can't think of anything right now that would fit the description)

Could have been that he received full bar of contested health and left the banner area and got hit my a heavy attack which then would reduce your health bar but the contested health bar would reappear.

Maybe, but than it must be very specific timing. Nontheless, it is definitely not from the banner, beside being a bug but I never encoutered this situation before and I played alot with this perk myself.
Atcera Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by S4V6:

In that case look at my reply bellow
Could it be that you were hit by a warrior while you left the and re-entered the area of effect?
because then it would refill your contested health back up maybe not to full but 3/4 of that

That's what I'm telling you which is strange and I am trying to replicate. I regained white health to full when i re-entered the AOE, which is not normally how it works.
S4V6 Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:34am 
Originally posted by Atcera:
Originally posted by S4V6:

In that case look at my reply bellow
Could it be that you were hit by a warrior while you left the and re-entered the area of effect?
because then it would refill your contested health back up maybe not to full but 3/4 of that

That's what I'm telling you which is strange and I am trying to replicate. I regained white health to full when i re-entered the AOE, which is not normally how it works.

Yeah it isn't normal I am aware of that.
So were you hit by a attack at some point when re-entering the banner area?
Could have even been a ranged attack by a warrior or any higher enemy
Because any attack at that point would make your contested health bar reappear.
Could have even been the Assault perk that is bugged right now and damages teammates. It's the one that does damage on take off.
Last edited by S4V6; Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:36am
Kotzi Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:37am 
I woud assume that its a bug.
Atcera Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by S4V6:
Yeah it isn't normal I am aware of that.
So were you hit by a attack at some point when re-entering the banner area?
Could have even been a ranged attack by a warrior or any higher enemy

No I got the contested health, went and fought the enemy, lost health again, went in the aoe to refill my armor, got full contested health again as a bonus. I thought it was just some specific build people were using.
Atcera Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:40am 
I got an answer on Discord, someone says it's a bug from the lvl 16 perk, haven't tried it myself as of right now.
S4V6 Oct 11, 2024 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Atcera:
Originally posted by S4V6:
Yeah it isn't normal I am aware of that.
So were you hit by a attack at some point when re-entering the banner area?
Could have even been a ranged attack by a warrior or any higher enemy

No I got the contested health, went and fought the enemy, lost health again, went in the aoe to refill my armor, got full contested health again as a bonus. I thought it was just some specific build people were using.

Could you specify lost health and got health again?
Because I was specifically asking if you were hit at some point when you re-entered the banner area.
Could have been something trivial as Assaults perk that damages teammates.

What I am getting at is by losing red health by a heavy attack it would trigger your contested health again. Could have been ranged attack by Warriors such as Barbed Stranglers or Venom Cannon.

DId you notice any attack hitting you while you re-entered?
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