3080 Ti, Ryzen 9 3900x, can it handle it?

[Legionnaire Descendance]

This is the worst game when it comes optimization getting 12 frames sometimes annoying as hell, even on low.

[Zephyr]

Likely the CPU is your problem, at least in part. Ryzen 3000 is not really that great for gaming anymore (modern AAA games) and yes, Warhammer 40K II is really hard on CPUs. Even current gen top end CPUs will not get much more than 100-120 FPS is some cases.

A Ryzen 5600X which is much better than a 3900X for games will struggle to get 60 FPS average at all times.

However, drops to 12 FPS seems really very low and there might be a problem with recent patches or older drivers. It seems that every patch introduces issues :). I guess you should land somewhere between 50-65 FPS on average at least, with perhaps quite bad lows sometimes (30 FPS or so). Drops to 12 FPS, though... .

Hm, do you have the 4K texture pack installed? You will not be able to use that with an RTX 3080 TI. Nvidia **** with the VRAM capacities it gives higher end GPUs, that are not flagship GPUs. It is planned obsolescence :). To use the 4K texture pack you need at the very least 16 GB of VRAM, better are 20 GB. I have an RX 7900XT and played with FSR quality scaled to 4K resolution or at 3200*1800 resolution native. With the 4k texture pack all 20 GB VRAM were allocated and between 15 and 18 GB VRAM were used. So.... .

This could also explain the stutters. If a GPU runs out of VRAM things can become unplayable.

[Naus]

Make sure you have game installed on SSD and not HDD.
I had it initially on HDD and I can't destribe how much it ruined my experience with game despite it being amazing.

[Legionnaire Descendance]

Originally posted by Naus:

Make sure you have game installed on SSD and not HDD.
I had it initially on HDD and I can't destribe how much it ruined my experience with game despite it being amazing.

All of my disks are SSD's

[Legionnaire Descendance]

Originally posted by Zephyr:

Likely the CPU is your problem, at least in part. Ryzen 3000 is not really that great for gaming anymore (modern AAA games) and yes, Warhammer 40K II is really hard on CPUs. Even current gen top end CPUs will not get much more than 100-120 FPS is some cases.

A Ryzen 5600X which is much better than a 3900X for games will struggle to get 60 FPS average at all times.

However, drops to 12 FPS seems really very low and there might be a problem with recent patches or older drivers. It seems that every patch introduces issues :). I guess you should land somewhere between 50-65 FPS on average at least, with perhaps quite bad lows sometimes (30 FPS or so). Drops to 12 FPS, though... .

Hm, do you have the 4K texture pack installed? You will not be able to use that with an RTX 3080 TI. Nvidia **** with the VRAM capacities it gives higher end GPUs, that are not flagship GPUs. It is planned obsolescence :). To use the 4K texture pack you need at the very least 16 GB of VRAM, better are 20 GB. I have an RX 7900XT and played with FSR quality scaled to 4K resolution or at 3200*1800 resolution native. With the 4k texture pack all 20 GB VRAM were allocated and between 15 and 18 GB VRAM were used. So.... .

This could also explain the stutters. If a GPU runs out of VRAM things can become unplayable.

which CPU do you recommend then?

[Con.RoXP]

Originally posted by CaineOWicked:

Originally posted by Zephyr:

Likely the CPU is your problem, at least in part. Ryzen 3000 is not really that great for gaming anymore (modern AAA games) and yes, Warhammer 40K II is really hard on CPUs. Even current gen top end CPUs will not get much more than 100-120 FPS is some cases.

A Ryzen 5600X which is much better than a 3900X for games will struggle to get 60 FPS average at all times.

However, drops to 12 FPS seems really very low and there might be a problem with recent patches or older drivers. It seems that every patch introduces issues :). I guess you should land somewhere between 50-65 FPS on average at least, with perhaps quite bad lows sometimes (30 FPS or so). Drops to 12 FPS, though... .

Hm, do you have the 4K texture pack installed? You will not be able to use that with an RTX 3080 TI. Nvidia **** with the VRAM capacities it gives higher end GPUs, that are not flagship GPUs. It is planned obsolescence :). To use the 4K texture pack you need at the very least 16 GB of VRAM, better are 20 GB. I have an RX 7900XT and played with FSR quality scaled to 4K resolution or at 3200*1800 resolution native. With the 4k texture pack all 20 GB VRAM were allocated and between 15 and 18 GB VRAM were used. So.... .

This could also explain the stutters. If a GPU runs out of VRAM things can become unplayable.

which CPU do you recommend then?

5800x3D or 5700x3D if the former is too expensive and/or not available. Massive performance boost and you don't need to change motherboard or RAM. You will only need a BIOS update if your motherboard predates the launch of these CPUs and you've never updated.

[Legionnaire Descendance]

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

Originally posted by CaineOWicked:

which CPU do you recommend then?

5800x3D or 5700x3D if the former is too expensive and/or not available. Massive performance boost and you don't need to change motherboard or RAM. You will only need a BIOS update if your motherboard predates the launch of these CPUs and you've never updated.

I suck at components but I never understood why the Ryzen 7 series is better than the Ryzen 9 when you compare the same series 5800x3d

Is the Ryzen 7 better than the Ryzen 9? Gaming wise yet but when it comes to work and softwares no? or is the Ryzen 9 overall better at gaming they just say 7 Is better because of the cheaper price with similar performance.

[Con.RoXP]

Originally posted by CaineOWicked:

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

5800x3D or 5700x3D if the former is too expensive and/or not available. Massive performance boost and you don't need to change motherboard or RAM. You will only need a BIOS update if your motherboard predates the launch of these CPUs and you've never updated.

I suck at components but I never understood why the Ryzen 7 series is better than the Ryzen 9 when you compare the same series 5800x3d

Is the Ryzen 7 better than the Ryzen 9? Gaming wise yet but when it comes to work and softwares no? or is the Ryzen 9 overall better at gaming they just say 7 Is better because of the cheaper price with similar performance.

The 3D CPUs are leagues better than their non-3D counterparts when it comes only to gaming because games absolutely love Cache Memory and those CPUs have triple the amount. For pretty much anything else the non-3D versions are better because they have higher Clock Speeds (Hz).

Generally you will see a preference for Ryzen 7 over R9 in gaming. First and foremost the R9 is not a good value for money choice if all you are doing is gaming.
Second, the R9 needs 2 "boxes" (dies) for its 16 cores because they can't fit into one. Communication between the 2 dies adds some delay and that may hurt gaming performance.

[Legionnaire Descendance]

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

Originally posted by CaineOWicked:

I suck at components but I never understood why the Ryzen 7 series is better than the Ryzen 9 when you compare the same series 5800x3d

Is the Ryzen 7 better than the Ryzen 9? Gaming wise yet but when it comes to work and softwares no? or is the Ryzen 9 overall better at gaming they just say 7 Is better because of the cheaper price with similar performance.

The 3D CPUs are leagues better than their non-3D counterparts when it comes only to gaming because games absolutely love Cache Memory and those CPUs have triple the amount. For pretty much anything else the non-3D versions are better because they have higher Clock Speeds (Hz).

Generally you will see a preference for Ryzen 7 over R9 in gaming. First and foremost the R9 is not a good value for money choice if all you are doing is gaming.
Second, the R9 needs 2 "boxes" (dies) for its 16 cores because they can't fit into one. Communication between the 2 dies adds some delay and that may hurt gaming performance.

How badly will it hurt? is there a noticable difference.

[Con.RoXP]

Originally posted by CaineOWicked:

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

The 3D CPUs are leagues better than their non-3D counterparts when it comes only to gaming because games absolutely love Cache Memory and those CPUs have triple the amount. For pretty much anything else the non-3D versions are better because they have higher Clock Speeds (Hz).

Generally you will see a preference for Ryzen 7 over R9 in gaming. First and foremost the R9 is not a good value for money choice if all you are doing is gaming.
Second, the R9 needs 2 "boxes" (dies) for its 16 cores because they can't fit into one. Communication between the 2 dies adds some delay and that may hurt gaming performance.

How badly will it hurt? is there a noticable difference.

Compared to your current CPU, changing to one of the 3D CPUs will be a noticeable upgrade.

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

Originally posted by CaineOWicked:

How badly will it hurt? is there a noticable difference.

Compared to your current CPU, changing to one of the 3D CPUs will be a noticeable upgrade.

Yes,

the 3d vCache technology is a game changer. For you the 5700X3d makes most sense. The5800X3d is not available anymore usually, or only for ridiculous prices. Generally 12 core CPUs are not much use for games. Many games still do not scale well with more than 8 cores.

The difference will be VERY noticeable in CPU limited situations. 5700 X3d only costs 200-220 $ or so. Drop in AM4 upgrade, much less power use, many more FPS for you :). If you do not work with your PC or not much at least, it is the perfect upgrade.

You should expect 30-50+ % more FPS on average with a Ryzen 5700 X3d (when the game is cache sensitive, many are) compared to a Ryzen 3900X, 1% lows may be even better in some cases. However, like I said you problem seems to have more cuases than just the CPU, if you have lows of 12 FPS or so

[Legionnaire Descendance]

Originally posted by Zephyr:

Originally posted by Con.RoXP:

Compared to your current CPU, changing to one of the 3D CPUs will be a noticeable upgrade.

Yes,

the 3d vCache technology is a game changer. For you the 5700X3d makes most sense. The5800X3d is not available anymore usually, or only for ridiculous prices. Generally 12 core CPUs are not much use for games. Many games still do not scale well with more than 8 cores.

The difference will be VERY noticeable in CPU limited situations. 5700 X3d only costs 200-220 $ or so. Drop in AM4 upgrade, much less power use, many more FPS for you :). If you do not work with your PC or not much at least, it is the perfect upgrade.

You should expect 30-50+ % more FPS on average with a Ryzen 5700 X3d (when the game is cache sensitive, many are) compared to a Ryzen 3900X, 1% lows may be even better in some cases. However, like I said you problem seems to have more cuases than just the CPU, if you have lows of 12 FPS or so

yeah its during hoardes it gets extremely laggy which I assume its CPU heavy

[Infrasound]

game is very CPU heavy., but yeah ou can play this.

[Lepenski Vir]

I have a ryzen 7 and a 3080ti and mine runs at 80-90 fps at 1440p on max settings, you should be fine with your setup.

[Ichi-niiPL]

You need better CPU for this game. As mentioned earlier 5800x3d is best on AM4 but 5700x3d while a bit slower is a very good in price/performance ratio - i would personally recommend this one as 5800x3d is too expensive to make it worth it - but that depends on your region etc. so make sure to check prices on both.

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by Lepenski Vir:

I have a ryzen 7 and a 3080ti and mine runs at 80-90 fps at 1440p on max settings, you should be fine with your setup.

Man no, ... it depends on what Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9 you have :). A Ryzen 2700X is a Ryzen 7 also and for this game it would be absolutely *****. By the same token you could also say an Intel I7 2700K from 2011 is "fine" when it absolutely would not be compared to an i7 13700K, because we have end 2024 now :).

The Ryzen 3900X discussed here is not "trash", but it was never meant to give very good gaming performance, it was the first Ryzen CPU gen that was more or less on par with Intel, especially price/performance. For games the performance is comparable to an Intel I9 9900K from 2018. Trust me, that CPU is also not going to handle Warhammer 40K II all that well. Only with the Ryzen 5000 series AMD really reached or surpassed Intel in games and there especially with the X3d CPUs (gen to gen at the time). Such CPUs have been the chart leaders since then with a good price/performance ratio (a little after release), awesome efficiency and simply stunning performance in games.

Like said the AM4 socket Ryzen 5700 X3d is the best choice for a cheap and worthwile upgrade here. This CPU should be able to handle 90-100 FPS in the heavier game sections which will shift the limitation to the GPU most likely (depends on resolution/upscaling).

Other concerns are VRAM for the RTX 3080TI. This is perhaps going to be an issue when 4K resolution/upscaled or texture pack is desired and of course installation on a SSD+ the newest drivers. Oh yes, a Bios update for the new CPU as well, of course, if an old Bios is still used without Ryzen 5000 support.
Two videos with Ryzen 3000 gen vs 5000 gen+ 5800 X3d. The 5700 X3d is maybe 5-10% slower than the 5800 X3d (at worst), but much cheaper and most importantly, available :).

A Ryzen 3900X is not much better in games than a Ryzen 3600 or Ryzen 3700X, at best also 5-10% (unlikely already).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBFNoKUHjcg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HqE03SpdOs


In the charts here there are no such CPU intensive games as we have today. A lot happened in the last years.

The two outlets here, gamers nexus and hardware unboxed are the best sites to get objective benchmark info about hardware and lots of other important things about hardware as well, period.