Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

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REhorror 15/ago./2024 às 8:31
SPOILERS - the whole thing about Titus
So it's pretty confirmed at this point, Titus is a disgraced fugitive who runs away from the Inquisition and gets saved by the Ultramarines.

Honestly, I wonder why they don't just go full Deathwatch instead of Ultramarines, it would make even more sense considering all the class gameplay and cosmetics and the enemy is Tyranid.

The Ultramarines harboring a fugitive seems kinda ...eh.

Not my Titus!
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REhorror 15/ago./2024 às 9:52 
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Ok so he did not run away, but made a last stand and rescued by the Ultramarines.

That's a bit better I guess.

My only issue then is the secrecy, why the need to cover Titus up?


Because in the world of 40k everyone must be suspicious and that causes in fighting. Leandros from the first game was suspicious and reported him....Thrax was suspicious and kept Titus locked up. You can't really blame them when demons possess people, cultists, and genestealers exist.

Calgar saw through the bullshittery of the inquisition and knew is was one of the Emperors finest and most loyal. Thus why Titus was reinstated and given both Primaris and a squad to lead.


Calgar wants him to prove to his brothers that he is who he is and not let him be remembered for a black mark that was utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to begin with.


Play the game, it'll make sense.
So it ultimately boils down to muh Calgar's favor.

This honest seems kinda dumb to me.

But eh, I will wait for the spoilers.
VengefulDevil 15/ago./2024 às 10:15 
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Because in the world of 40k everyone must be suspicious and that causes in fighting. Leandros from the first game was suspicious and reported him....Thrax was suspicious and kept Titus locked up. You can't really blame them when demons possess people, cultists, and genestealers exist.

Calgar saw through the bullshittery of the inquisition and knew is was one of the Emperors finest and most loyal. Thus why Titus was reinstated and given both Primaris and a squad to lead.


Calgar wants him to prove to his brothers that he is who he is and not let him be remembered for a black mark that was utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to begin with.


Play the game, it'll make sense.
So it ultimately boils down to muh Calgar's favor.

This honest seems kinda dumb to me.

But eh, I will wait for the spoilers.


.... I can't with you people, your opinions are lesser to a cats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
alchemest2001 15/ago./2024 às 14:12 
Unfortunatly, (I did like them) Deathwatch has been eliminated as a playable faction in the miniature game. Ultramarines, on the other hand, are the face of the GW brand. It makes sense to go Ultra, even if they're not your favorite chapter.
REhorror 16/ago./2024 às 5:49 
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So it ultimately boils down to muh Calgar's favor.

This honest seems kinda dumb to me.

But eh, I will wait for the spoilers.


.... I can't with you people, your opinions are lesser to a cats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
What's with the animosity?

Marneus Calgar is an intergalatic level of character with connections to multiple high authorities within the Imperium.

I find it quite unlikely he would personally step in to help the OC donut Captain character. It's like you writing a character who's personal friend with the President of US or China or something.
VengefulDevil 16/ago./2024 às 6:06 
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.... I can't with you people, your opinions are lesser to a cats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
What's with the animosity?

Marneus Calgar is an intergalatic level of character with connections to multiple high authorities within the Imperium.

I find it quite unlikely he would personally step in to help the OC donut Captain character. It's like you writing a character who's personal friend with the President of US or China or something.


Calgar leads his chapter while the Primarch leads the Imperium.

For a chapter based on Brotherhood more than most, what would you do if your brother was imprisoned, falsely accused, branded a heretic, when you know damn well all of that was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

Not to mention he saved an entire forge world.

Titus is both righteous and a valuable asset. Few others within the chapter has the experience he has. Calgar, unlike someone, has some brain cells.
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REhorror 16/ago./2024 às 6:22 
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What's with the animosity?

Marneus Calgar is an intergalatic level of character with connections to multiple high authorities within the Imperium.

I find it quite unlikely he would personally step in to help the OC donut Captain character. It's like you writing a character who's personal friend with the President of US or China or something.


Calgar leads his chapter while the Primarch leads the Imperium.

For a chapter based on Brotherhood more than most, what would you do if your brother was imprisoned, falsely accused, branded a heretic, when you know damn well all of that was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

Not to mention he saved an entire forge world.

Titus is both righteous and a valuable asset. Few others within the chapter has the experience he has. Calgar, unlike someone, has some brain cells.
You are talking about the Ultramarines, the chapter that is the face of the franchise and has a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of special characters (with figures to boot):
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ultramarines#Notable_Members_of_the_Ultramarines

I don't remember Calgar stepping in to save any captain.

But again, I still lament the decision to not follow up with the Deathwatch, it would simply make more sense and explain all the unique equipment and weapons. Somebody earlier said Titus's main enemy is daemons, but there's nothing stopping the Deathwatch from having some little Chaos incursion later in their campaign.
VengefulDevil 16/ago./2024 às 6:40 
L take, this isn't worth my time. Get blocked.
Sovereign 16/ago./2024 às 7:07 
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.... I can't with you people, your opinions are lesser to a cats ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
What's with the animosity?

Marneus Calgar is an intergalatic level of character with connections to multiple high authorities within the Imperium.

I find it quite unlikely he would personally step in to help the OC donut Captain character. It's like you writing a character who's personal friend with the President of US or China or something.
Intergalactic? 40k only takes place in one galaxy. Calgar is a chapter master, meaning he commander of like a 1000 guys, Titus was captain of the 2nd Company making him like the 5th or so most important of those 1000 guys.

You act like Titus is some random guardsmen that Calgar wouldn't even take notice of but he is just below him in the chain of command. It would be like if a SM company captain didn't know his own company lieutenants.
REhorror 16/ago./2024 às 7:16 
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What's with the animosity?

Marneus Calgar is an intergalatic level of character with connections to multiple high authorities within the Imperium.

I find it quite unlikely he would personally step in to help the OC donut Captain character. It's like you writing a character who's personal friend with the President of US or China or something.
Intergalactic? 40k only takes place in one galaxy. Calgar is a chapter master, meaning he commander of like a 1000 guys, Titus was captain of the 2nd Company making him like the 5th or so most important of those 1000 guys.

You act like Titus is some random guardsmen that Calgar wouldn't even take notice of but he is just below him in the chain of command. It would be like if a SM company captain didn't know his own company lieutenants.
Oh sorry, should be inter-star systems.

About the other point, the 2nd Company itself has many captains over the millenia, I still thought Cato Sicarius was supposed to be the 2nd Company's captain myself and Titus was from a made-up one. It seems the lore has been changed with SM2 in mind.
Sovereign 16/ago./2024 às 7:27 
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Intergalactic? 40k only takes place in one galaxy. Calgar is a chapter master, meaning he commander of like a 1000 guys, Titus was captain of the 2nd Company making him like the 5th or so most important of those 1000 guys.

You act like Titus is some random guardsmen that Calgar wouldn't even take notice of but he is just below him in the chain of command. It would be like if a SM company captain didn't know his own company lieutenants.
Oh sorry, should be inter-star systems.

About the other point, the 2nd Company itself has many captains over the millenia, I still thought Cato Sicarius was supposed to be the 2nd Company's captain myself and Titus was from a made-up one. It seems the lore has been changed with SM2 in mind.
Titus was captain of the 2nd company captain in the first game, not this one. In this the 2nd Company is led Captain Sevastus Acheran. Cato Sicarius was the captain in between the two of them up until his ship was lost in the Warp early In the Indomitus Crusade.
REhorror 16/ago./2024 às 7:31 
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Oh sorry, should be inter-star systems.

About the other point, the 2nd Company itself has many captains over the millenia, I still thought Cato Sicarius was supposed to be the 2nd Company's captain myself and Titus was from a made-up one. It seems the lore has been changed with SM2 in mind.
Titus was captain of the 2nd company captain in the first game, not this one. In this the 2nd Company is led Captain Sevastus Acheran. Cato Sicarius was the captain in between the two of them up until his ship was lost in the Warp early In the Indomitus Crusade.
I know Titus was a captain in the 1st game, but not of the 2nd company.
This was weird to me because I assume the 2nd company is Cato Sicarius's deal, he's a way more famous character.

Oh well, I admit my loss here.
Chaoslord 87 17/ago./2024 às 12:52 
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I know Titus was a captain in the 1st game, but not of the 2nd company.
This was weird to me because I assume the 2nd company is Cato Sicarius's deal, he's a way more famous character.

Oh well, I admit my loss here.

They retconned it.
Cato Sicarius took command over the 2nd Company after Titus got arrested by Inquisitior Thrax at the end of SM1.
And Sevastus Acheran is now officially captain of the 2nd company since Guilliman took Sicarius under his wing as his Adjutant and commander of his Victrix Guard.
Idouts 17/ago./2024 às 15:54 
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Because he's an Ultramarine and a former captain to boot, Calgar wanted one of his best guys personal friend back. Also dude, it's the Imperium of Man, there is always "some f*ckery" going on.
This smells like some fan fiction, Marneus Calgar suddenly takes an interest in OC donut character in a video game.

I dunno what they are trying to do here, but gameplay-wise and even lore-wise, it makes more for the game to be about Deathwatch than Ultramarines.
I mean did you see him beat the everhating warp out of the final boss?

I would absolutely want him back.
REhorror 17/ago./2024 às 16:28 
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This smells like some fan fiction, Marneus Calgar suddenly takes an interest in OC donut character in a video game.

I dunno what they are trying to do here, but gameplay-wise and even lore-wise, it makes more for the game to be about Deathwatch than Ultramarines.
I mean did you see him beat the everhating warp out of the final boss?

I would absolutely want him back.
That's about average for an Ultramarine special character. The aforementioned Cato and Uriel Ventris have more impressive feats.
Mister Magician 17/ago./2024 às 17:36 
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So it's pretty confirmed at this point, Titus is a disgraced fugitive who runs away from the Inquisition and gets saved by the Ultramarines.

Honestly, I wonder why they don't just go full Deathwatch instead of Ultramarines, it would make even more sense considering all the class gameplay and cosmetics and the enemy is Tyranid.

The Ultramarines harboring a fugitive seems kinda ...eh.

Not my Titus!
This is complete nonsense.

Titus was in prison for about 100 years, then black shield deathwatch for another 100, and the only reason he was for so long is because Calgar thought he was dead the whole time.

He's not a fugitive, and was cleared of all charges multiple times, in fact they could not even find anything on him in the first place but told everyone he was dead to hide the existence of the artifact.
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