So there aren't any female custodes?

[ASTRA]

I am so confused, why is everyone on this game so anti woman for? I’m not jester farming, so you can go ahead and stfu, and no I do not understand the lore, I’m a casual player. I’m just baffled by why so many people in the comments are switch gatekeepers of this IP and why they’re so anti woman playing this game.

[Dragon Master]

No one is anti-woman. There are woman only factions that are absolutely badass and have huge fan bases.

What people are against is changing the existing lore to appeal to modern sensibilities that have no place in the grim dark future where there is only war.

[wojciechk50]

yes you do seem to be very confused.

Guys remember - no jesters for trolls.

[Silverquick]

Never should have been any in the first place,
The Custodes were little more than Space Marines, ie Genetic clones of the Emperor.

There is no way in hell they would "change" that suddenly make them NOT like the emperor given the outright worship of the Emperor as a God.

It would be completely sacrilegious and heresy in their eyes.

[Lowbei]

Farm detected. Rerouting all awards to first poster.

In the name of the Emperor, the Slaaneshi shall not win this day. Hold the line brothers.

[Nekros]

Because the justification was terrible of "there always has been" when asked why this is suddenly now a thing when it clearly well established that gene seeds only work on male physiology. GW is cynically just trying to appeal to people that don't even know or care about their franchise anyways because it might give them more money or that their company has been invaded by bad actors that don't actually respect the franchise and think it needs to conform.

[w10-20-2000]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

No one is anti-woman. There are woman only factions that are absolutely badass and have huge fan bases.

What people are against is changing the existing lore to appeal to modern sensibilities that have no place in the grim dark future where there is only war.

Praise be the mind that keeps reason amidst the trolls, rage baiters and jester farmers !
He shall guard us from, baseless conflict and political discussions !

The Emperor protects brothers !

[Azriel]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

No one is anti-woman. There are woman only factions that are absolutely badass and have huge fan bases.

What people are against is changing the existing lore to appeal to modern sensibilities that have no place in the grim dark future where there is only war.

GOAT, The Emperor Protects

[Mutant1988]

Originally posted by Silverquick:

Never should have been any in the first place,
The Custodes were little more than Space Marines, ie Genetic clones of the Emperor.

There is no way in hell they would "change" that suddenly make them NOT like the emperor given the outright worship of the Emperor as a God.

It would be completely sacrilegious and heresy in their eyes.

Neither space Marines or Custodes are clones of the Emperor.

Primarchs are derived from his DNA but they're not clones.

[BlackTempler]

In the lore adeptus sororitas are the battlesisters of the space marines

[SonofProsperoXV]

Most people aren't really anti women. I doubt most people have that big of an issue with the lore change itself, I personally like it and how it helps differentiate the roles of the space marines and custodes in the emperors vision (which I could comment on extensively, but I won't). I think where the problem lies for the majority of people is the perceived reasoning for the change, and the way Games Workshop chose to come out with the change.

[Soral]

If there is anything I've learned about fandoms, is that outrage is more interesting than meh. It gets more karma, more views, more clicks, more everything. Being mad about something, no matter how stupid that thing is, draws more attention. If people are meh about something, they aren't going to post online, but they definitely will if they're mad. It skews the perception, giving people the idea that everyone is mad about 40K female custodes. The reality is 99% of the player base could not care less. People seek to validate their anger and so you just get a bunch of angry culture war warriors gathering together and declaring "Yes, this is definitely the problem. Not the overpriced models, not the company's business policies, not the slow pace of codexes, rulebooks. None of that is the problem, female custodes those are the real issue here."

I wish my life so easy I could work up the big mad about stupid culture war stuff, but I guess some people have all the time in the world, and boundless emotional energy to invest.

[Twelve]

I think anytime you change something with a loved IP, youre going to get blowback, and the more passionate the fanbase, the more angry the response.

where the most anger comes in though, in this case, is when the company makes the change, and it feels like its pandering to 'modern audiences'.. then lies about it to the fans (claiming it wasnt changed, it was like that all along).

Sure, forums and social media amplify a few voices to a wider audience, and then the wider audience gets outraged as well. but that doesnt invalidate the reasons folks got mad in the first place.

there is no shortage of females in 40k. If anyone can give me a reason to add them into an existing male centric faction (other than diversity and inclusion) id love to hear it.

[THE PILGRIM]

Originally posted by Dragon Master:

No one is anti-woman. There are woman only factions that are absolutely badass and have huge fan bases.

What people are against is changing the existing lore to appeal to modern sensibilities that have no place in the grim dark future where there is only war.

YES, the Sisters of Battle were one of the factions that kept me going in 40k. I absolutely loved playing them in Dawn of War.

[The_Dipl0mat]

Originally posted by Twelve:

there is no shortage of females in 40k. If anyone can give me a reason to add them into an existing male centric faction (other than diversity and inclusion) id love to hear it.

So for the Custodes, I believe it primarily serves as a way to further separate the gap between them and Astartes. As before, it was very easy to chalk them up as just improved Space Marines. They're stronger, smarter, wiser, faster, better in every way than an Astartes. Which makes people subconsciously think they're an upgrade. That's at least what I initially thought of them before I learned more of their lore. Well, that and jesus christ so many FNPs to go through. But now there's an interesting divide where the Astartes come off to seem as a more rudimentary force. They're the best outside of Custodes, sure. But the process to make them is less refined than the Custodes. Alluding further to how they were potentially meant to be a temporary force similar to the Thunder Warriors. It also changes the overall perception of how Custodes augmentation is done, and further mystifying it because it's clearly not just a refinement of Astartes due to the presence of women.

I suppose a case could be made for what the difference is when the Emperor directly makes an elite soldier, and when the Emperor delegates the task to someone else.

On a personal note, it has shifted me against women in the Astartes a bit now, as while I still think they're neat and will continue to run them in my own army. The difference made to the overall lore is a nice one

[Woldy]

warhammer fans arent antiwoman. there are already establiched well beloved all female factions and characters in the setting. Custodes are just not one of them, that has always been an faction only made up of men.
what warhammer fans really dislike is being lied to, ridiculed and gaslit for the sake of pandering to an audience who doesent care about the IP one lick.
GW insist upon a needless change and dig themselves into a hole of lies despite being fact checked at every turn by their own fans. it is quite frankly pathetic.

believe me when i tell you this, that the players would be up in arms just as much if the sisters of silence or Adeptus Sororitas for some reason got a male member. it'd be the exact same respone.

Its quite naive that they think they can lie and gaslight one of the most lore/hobby-autistic players in the world and get away with it.

So. no, no female custodies if we are to believe the actual lore experts of this IP.