hey

[Shunie]

have a good day

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by Shunie:

. One potential change could be the inclusion of characters with diverse sexual orientations, such as homosexual or bisexual Space Marines. This would bring new depth to the characters without breaking the established canon of the universe. .

Nope. There are no homosexual or bisexual SM in GW lore. Saber\Focus cannot introduce anything on their own without GW's permission, they cannot change the lore on their own either. This had been already explained many times. Nothing like that will ever happen.

Nice bait, try harder.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Shunie:

In Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2, there are opportunities to add elements that would broaden the scope of the game while maintaining its core spirit and atmosphere, but with a modern twist. One potential change could be the inclusion of characters with diverse sexual orientations, such as homosexual or bisexual Space Marines. This would bring new depth to the characters without breaking the established canon of the universe. Alongside this, gender diversity could be explored by introducing characters who do not conform to traditional gender roles, such as non-binary or genderfluid heroes.

Another interesting direction would be to introduce factions of the Imperium questioning their harsh and aggressive philosophy. This could lead to storylines where ethical dilemmas arise, with some characters searching for alternative ways to resolve conflicts, including diplomacy or more humane approaches. Such elements could add philosophical depth and moral complexity to the story.

It would also be intriguing to see a more diverse world through the lens of multicultural and interracial relationships. For instance, incorporating interactions between Space Marines and various ethnic groups or alien races could open up new narrative and character development possibilities. These changes could make the universe feel more diverse and multifaceted.

Adding strong female characters, particularly within the Space Marines or in key roles across other factions, could offer a fresh perspective without straying from the traditions of the franchise. These female characters could make significant contributions to the plot and impact the events unfolding in the game.

Exploring themes of cultural and social identity would also be a valuable addition to the game. Story arcs where characters reflect on their values and ideals, questioning the purpose of war and their personal motivations, could introduce a more philosophical dimension to the narrative.

Finally, introducing elements of interracial and intergalactic alliances, as well as relationships between different races and cultures, could provide a new perspective on the existing relationships within the Warhammer 40K universe. These innovations could expand the game’s vision while staying true to its core principles.

I think anyone who wants a future for this game will agree with me: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 has huge potential, but it needs bold updates to stay relevant. Embracing diversity, deeper storytelling, and innovative gameplay will keep it fresh and ensure it thrives in an evolving gaming landscape.

space marines dont have a sex drive unless they are influenced by chaos, space marines also dont have much of a private life, they only live to fight and die for the emperor, thats thair full and only purpose.

questioning the philosophy of the imperium will get the inquisition to investigate and most likely would get you killed or lobotomized and turned into a servitor.

working togeter with aliens (except the eldar in some occations) will get you killed by the inquisition as well, as far as the imperium is concerned aliens deserve to die simply for existing.

the 40k universe as a whole is full with strong female characters already across several factions including aliens and the imperium of man.

humanity in 40k is already multiethnic, racism in 40k is directed toward aliens, not towards different ethnics of humans.

questioning the imperium or its wars will get you killed or lobotomized and turned into a servitor, there is no freedom of speech in the imperium, if you question the imperiums actions you better play a damn good act so that people arround you dont notice and dont report you to the authorities.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by Shunie:

Originally posted by wojciechk50:

Nope. There are no homosexual or bisexual SM in GW lore. Saber\Focus cannot introduce anything on their own without GW's permission, they cannot change the lore on their own either. This had been already explained many times. Nothing like that will ever happen.

Nice bait, try harder.

The idea is about exploring alternative paths or "what if" scenarios, not rewriting canon. It could be an optional feature that adds depth without changing the core lore, much like how other games explore alternative histories or storylines.

Bait? I'm 100% serious.

You cannot introduce homosexual or bisexual or sexual SM without changing the lore, they simply don't exist therefore they will never appear in this game or any other WH40k game in the foreseeable future.


quote; "I think anyone who wants a future for this game will agree with me: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 has huge potential, but it needs bold updates to stay relevant. Embracing diversity, deeper storytelling, and innovative gameplay will keep it fresh and ensure it thrives in an evolving gaming landscape."

_ I am sure most of Wh40k fans WILL NOT AGREE with you and what WH40k actually needs is the exact opposite of what you wrote.


GUYS, DON'T GIVE JESTERS TO THIS GUY, IT'S ANOTHER FARM THREAD.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by Shunie:

Originally posted by Darth Revan:

space marines dont have a sex drive unless they are influenced by chaos, space marines also dont have much of a private life, they only live to fight and die for the emperor, thats thair full and only purpose.

questioning the philosophy of the imperium will get the inquisition to investigate and most likely would get you killed or lobotomized and turned into a servitor.

working togeter with aliens (except the eldar in some occations) will get you killed by the inquisition as well, as far as the imperium is concerned aliens deserve to die simply for existing.

the 40k universe as a whole is full with strong female characters already across several factions including aliens and the imperium of man.

humanity in 40k is already multiethnic, racism in 40k is directed toward aliens, not towards different ethnics of humans.

questioning the imperium or its wars will get you killed or lobotomized and turned into a servitor, there is no freedom of speech in the imperium, if you question the imperiums actions you better play a damn good act so that people arround you dont notice and dont report you to the authorities.

You're right that Warhammer 40K has strict lore, and I’m not suggesting we rewrite it. The goal is to add more depth without breaking the core themes. For example, exploring characters who struggle with the Imperium's oppressive philosophy or introducing more nuanced characters from diverse backgrounds doesn't undermine the universe - it enriches it. The grimdark tone can still remain intact while allowing for more complex storytelling that makes the world feel even more multifaceted

What you just described is called Chaos Space Marines, it already exists in the lore, no need to invent them second time. The thing is, this game is called Space Marine 2, not Chaos Space Marine 2. That is the difference.

[Lowbei]

no, they will not be adding that.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by Shunie:

Space Marine 2 can evolve without losing its essence - diversity and complexity can enhance, not ruin, the experience.
And it's not bait, calm down

No it can't and it won't . You know nothing about Wh40k lore and the game development, especially when it's based on an established IP like WH40k.

There will be no homosexual SM in this game or any other WH40k game about SM.

[Realigo Actual]

40K is not Star Wars

there is no east vs. west woke vs anti-woke garbage thing in it

go find Star Wars

get something to do.

and Star Wars is not Star Wars, either, for that matter. The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on YouTube are rotting your brain. They're just trying to make money from their youtube channels while appearing as authentic grassroots media. They can get conflicts of interest, move the goalposts, and sell out quicker and easier than any major journalistic or media institution.

(this is obvious troll. there is enough of this crap on this game's forum)

[Naus]

Maybe first get to know Warhammer 40k world and then start making suggestions.

1. "Another interesting direction would be to introduce factions of the Imperium questioning their harsh and aggressive philosophy."
- we already have them, in Horus Heresy you can see plenty of them being conquered and destroyed by Great Crusade.

2. "One potential change could be the inclusion of characters with diverse sexual orientations, such as homosexual or bisexual Space Marines. This would bring new depth to the characters without breaking the established canon of the universe. Alongside this, gender diversity could be explored by introducing characters who do not conform to traditional gender roles, such as non-binary or genderfluid heroes."

- please stop pushing this LGBT ♥♥♥♥ down out throats every possible way you can. Trump won, ok? It's over. Warhammer has enough diversity with different races, casts, clans, warbands, gods and mutants. We DO NOT need to contemplate if Astartes ripping some heretic apart gets sexually aroused or feels sad. It DOES NOT MATTER in this universum.

3. "It would also be intriguing to see a more diverse world through the lens of multicultural and interracial relationships. For instance, incorporating interactions between Space Marines and various ethnic groups or alien races could open up new narrative and character development possibilities. These changes could make the universe feel more diverse and multifaceted.:

- we have them, these interactions are mainly focused on slaughter.

4. "Adding strong female characters, particularly within the Space Marines or in key roles across other factions, could offer a fresh perspective without straying from the traditions of the franchise. These female characters could make significant contributions to the plot and impact the events unfolding in the game."

- have you maybe, by any chance, ever heard for example of Euphrati Keeler? Again you are making statement for sake of making statement, without any sense. We ALREADY HAVE strong female characters in Wh40k universe. NO, there won't be female Space Marine, you already have female-only faction in Imperium, which are Sisters of Battle. Maybe you heard of Saint Celestine? No? What a surprise.

"Exploring themes of cultural and social identity would also be a valuable addition to the game. Story arcs where characters reflect on their values and ideals, questioning the purpose of war and their personal motivations, could introduce a more philosophical dimension to the narrative.

Finally, introducing elements of interracial and intergalactic alliances, as well as relationships between different races and cultures, could provide a new perspective on the existing relationships within the Warhammer 40K universe. These innovations could expand the game’s vision while staying true to its core principles."

- WE ALREADY HAVE THIS IN WARHAMMER UNIVERSE. IT'S ALL ABOUT IT.

You clearly have 0 knowledge about Warhammer 40k universe and are in no position to make suggestions, mostly because some of them are already fullfilled up to absurd extent.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by Shunie:

. My bad! 🙃

You finally understood. You're welcome.

[wojciechk50]

Originally posted by Shunie:

Originally posted by wojciechk50:

You finally understood. You're welcome.

Haha, are you serious? You've probably never heard the word "sarcasm"

No I haven't haha.

[Chaoslord 87]

Originally posted by Shunie:

Wow, looks like I triggered the Emperor's wrath there! 😎 Guess I didn’t realize that the only thing Warhammer 40K needed was more chainsaw swords and less, well, anything remotely modern or diverse. Clearly, the real philosophical depth of this universe is only about, you know, ripping heretics apart and not, like, thinking about the horrors of war. But sure, you’re right, there’s absolutely no room for nuance or development - just more slaughter, more grimdark, and absolutely no questioning of the status quo. My bad! 🙃

The Problem is, that you guys always try to push modern politics into a Fictional Universe with it´s own rules and customs and cultures for no reason at all.

What good are these woke and modern agendas in a Universe, where every Race is constantly waging war with one another to ensure their own survival and alliances are at best short lived because of their radical different values, cultures and beliefs?

The Imperium for example became the oppressive and dystopian hellhole not out of choice but out of sheer necessaty to keep humantiy as a whole alive against countless outer and inner threats.

During the Great Crusade, the Imperium was remarkably openminded even with the Imperial Truth as their ideological Framework, which outlawed Religion and outright forbid certain Technologies like AI, artificial Lifeforms and most forms of Warptech due to their horrific consequences during the Cybernetic Revolution. An Intergalatic Civilwar which brought a far, far more advanced Human Empire and Humanity itself close to extinction.

Long story short, the Imperium of Man was rising again from the Ashes of the first Empire, only to be brought down again during the Horus Heresy which left the Imperium back as that broken husk. It´s technological might slowly eroding away and most of it´s advancements in society and Culture were sacrificed on the Altar of War to keep it´s guttering Flame just barley alive.

[Twelve]

Originally posted by Shunie:

In Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2, there are opportunities (blah blah blah) evolving gaming landscape.

To share a quote from Billy Madison:

“What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”

[Aya]

Brothers, it seems the taint of Slaanesh comes knocking on our battle barges once more.

[Naus]

Originally posted by Baileys Iced Capp:

Brothers, it seems the taint of Slaanesh comes knocking on our battle barges once more.

Who left hentai playing in the Armory again? Now weebs swarmed all around holy machines.
On the other hand after Brother Decimus visited bathroom we could make use of few new toilet-flushers servitors.

The Emperor Provides Brothers.

[Aya]

Originally posted by Naus:

Originally posted by Baileys Iced Capp:

Brothers, it seems the taint of Slaanesh comes knocking on our battle barges once more.

Who left hentai playing in the Armory again? Now weebs swarmed all around holy machines.
On the other hand after Brother Decimus visited bathroom we could make use of few new toilet-flushers servitors.

The Emperor Provides Brothers.

Though the Chaplain would never want to admit it, I have two suspects of this heresy, both of them who he swear his utmost loyalty two.