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Melinda Safitri Nov 17, 2023 @ 7:09pm

pleaase dont use Denuvo

if u use Denuvo i dont buy it

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Originally posted by Korrex:

Originally posted by min3r95:
Originally posted by Korrex:
Such is the curse of having a pvp or co-op mode, for if the game has online functions then there will be cheaters ruining everyone else's fun.
Seem like you and some people in thread misunderstood.
The Denuvo OP are talking about is Denuvo DRM,or Anti-tamper like Irdeto like to refer it as, not Denuvo anti cheat, though that is an entirely different can of worms.

Denuvo implemented games rely on 3rd party DRM server to generate authorization tokens in order for the games to be launchable(forced online authorization). These tokens are expirable and can be break under circumstances(reinstalling/update OS/driver,switching Proton(Linux), changing hardware) render the games useless.
The tokens won't be automatically acquired by themselves, you need to launch the games in online mode for them to be acquired.
The tokens can only be acquired for a limited number of times(usually 5)per 24 hours, once you reach the limit for whatever reason, you will be blocked out of your games, and will need to wait until the next day to be able to "activate" the game again.You need to ask for permission to play the game you paid for.
You can play Denuvo implemented games in offline mode, but it won't be indefinitely.
In fact you can't play the games at all if there's no token or for some reason it's cannot a token(server outage) regardless of whether you're online or offline.

According to the Devs, the game does not have a DRM system, but does have EAC.

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lukaself Nov 18, 2023 @ 2:45am

Same. No but, no ifs.

astgdzfgdsg has Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2

Nov 18, 2023 @ 2:48am

I don't care either way, doesn't affect me in the slightest.

lukaself Nov 18, 2023 @ 2:53am

Originally posted by derpherpitucus:
I don't care either way, doesn't affect me in the slightest.

You're perfectly free to not care. Saying it doesn't affect you is simply untrue though.

Inhume

Nov 18, 2023 @ 2:56am

It will be Denuvo...

X4X4X3N 🩸☠️IX☠️🩸 Nov 18, 2023 @ 7:10am

i dont know what is denuvo and what is the problem, can u explain me pls?

Inhume

Nov 18, 2023 @ 7:39am

The anti tamper

Melinda Safitri Nov 18, 2023 @ 9:24am

Originally posted by X4X4X3N Inmortal:
i dont know what is denuvo and what is the problem, can u explain me pls?

performance
offline mode
and hardware temperature

but my big problem is offline mode
u only can play offline mode in 1 week.. after that denuvo ask u to connect internet

[82AD] Karvan Nov 20, 2023 @ 1:14pm

The cry about Denuvo's anti tampering software killing performance is getting a bit old. It used to be worse, but recently it has almost none to no major impact on a good majority of games that are out there. Don't take my word, look up the actual tests. Sure it doesn't make the gaming experience any better. Turns out most games that suffer from performance issues got crappy optimization, and they don't know how to optimize the implementation of denuvo in their game either; shocking, I know.

Not being able to play offline is the only legit and good reason to not want denuvo in a game. The hardware temperature is just a fabricated myth. People say that because they don't understand their own hardware or temperature control, or freak out when their gpu runs over 80 degrees when they designed from the ground up to run hot, and that's fine.
Denuvo doesn't actually increase temps, even if your gpu has to work 5% harder (at most) to run denuvo alongside the game. if you got a steamy case, your airflow sucks, got a dust problem or you're a big dum dum.

Oh yes, and of course most people don't want denuvo because it means they can't pirate the game, but continue making up more reasons why denuvo is bad instead of getting a job and buying the game.

Last edited by [82AD] Karvan; Nov 20, 2023 @ 1:14pm

lukaself Nov 20, 2023 @ 1:42pm

Originally posted by 82AD Karvan:
The cry about Denuvo's anti tampering software killing performance is getting a bit old.

And yet, even developers mention the performance cost for refusing to use it. While my own beef with the middleware is the limited offline capabilities and limited hardware compatibilities with Proton, from recent memory the Studio head from Amplitude studios and Tekken 8 producer's Katsuhiro Harada both indicated performance cost as a major issue.

Turns out, most of the time pirates aren't even affected and find other ways to play for free which do not involve circumventing the DRM. As far as preventing piracy goes, Denuvo has not been relevant in a long while, if it ever was.

Last edited by lukaself; Nov 20, 2023 @ 1:46pm

min3r95

Nov 20, 2023 @ 8:43pm

The OP should comeback and re-read what he just marked as the answer for the topic.

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min3r95

Nov 20, 2023 @ 8:44pm

Originally posted by lukaself:
And yet, even developers mention the performance cost for refusing to use it. While my own beef with the middleware is the limited offline capabilities and limited hardware compatibilities with Proton, from recent memory the Studio head from Amplitude studios and Tekken 8 producer's Katsuhiro Harada both indicated performance cost as a major issue.

Turns out, most of the time pirates aren't even affected and find other ways to play for free which do not involve circumventing the DRM. As far as preventing piracy goes, Denuvo has not been relevant in a long while, if it ever was. :clickbutton:

Even the developers of Atomic Heart kinda confirmed that.

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Melinda Safitri Nov 20, 2023 @ 11:00pm

Originally posted by min3r95:
Originally posted by lukaself:
And yet, even developers mention the performance cost for refusing to use it. While my own beef with the middleware is the limited offline capabilities and limited hardware compatibilities with Proton, from recent memory the Studio head from Amplitude studios and Tekken 8 producer's Katsuhiro Harada both indicated performance cost as a major issue.

Turns out, most of the time pirates aren't even affected and find other ways to play for free which do not involve circumventing the DRM. As far as preventing piracy goes, Denuvo has not been relevant in a long while, if it ever was. :clickbutton:
Even the developers of Atomic Heart kinda confirmed that.:LeViada_normal:

finally i understand why many people love video game without denuvo, ex Baldur Gate 3, Armored Core 6, Elden Ring, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk etc

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Melinda Safitri Nov 20, 2023 @ 11:02pm

damn this crazy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqyNKBQ-NbE game run better without Denuvo

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min3r95

Nov 21, 2023 @ 2:20am

Originally posted by Melinda Safitri:
finally i understand why many people love video game without denuvo, ex Baldur Gate 3, Armored Core 6, Elden Ring, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk etc

Performance issue isn't the only issue when it come to Denuvo.
The forced and limited online authorization is the biggest issue.
Denuvo implemented games need to rely on 3rd party DRM server to generate authorization token in order for the games to be launchable.
The tokens have timers on themselves, can only be acquired a limited number of times(5) per 24 hours,and can be expired under circumstances(update/reinstall OS/driver, switching Proton (Linux), changing hardwares). So troubleshooting these games can be a pain.
There're many occasions where people got block out of the games they bought for no reason, you can try searching for "codefusion".
Denuvo turn single-player games into partially alway-online games, no token, no play. It restricted you from using one of the most important features of pc games launchers, offline mode.

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