best bolter gun for tactical

[Nyoblackbriar]

already fully level up melta gun now i just want fun bolter to use

[The Grand Mugwump]

Some people would argue it's bolter with grenade launcher (a variant of the bolter rifle). I think that gun isn't all it's hyped up to be. It's not as much fun to shoot as other bolter weapons and the grenades become more and more limited with higher difficulties.

I personally prefer the heavy bolt rifle. It sounds good, it feels good, and it can tear the swarms of minoris apart pretty easily if they're clumped up. If you invest in accuracy and/or reduced recoil, it will score head shots extremely consistently, which lets it incapacitate at least two majoris enemies per clip if your weapon is the same quality as the mission difficulty.

The only one I'd say to avoid is the auto bolter rifle. It seems to be pretty bad in general. It shoots too fast to be accurate, and it eats through ammo without seeming to accomplish much.

[Ishan451]

I am partial to the Stalker Bolter, but i would wait for the patch, which should come this week, and see if there are any changes.

Postat inițial de The Grand Mugwump:

Some people would argue it's bolter with grenade launcher (a variant of the bolter rifle). I think that gun isn't all it's hyped up to be. It's not as much fun to shoot as other bolter weapons and the grenades become more and more limited with higher difficulties.

The Grenades only come online around Purple Grade... you'll not have a really great gun while playing grey through green.

[Darth Revan]

According to guide Videos I saw bolter with grenade launcher BUT only when it's on Relic tier, below Relic it seems to suck.

[RaelM]

If you perk yourself out correctly the bolter with a grenade launcher starts to shine. All you do is stun the majoris enemies with grenades, melee finish one and you have all your grenades back. You should never be running out of grenades if you select the correct perks. It's great for clearing minoris enemies too but of course make sure you keep at least 3 of them to stun a majoris for a resupply, depending on difficulty.

You can quite often launch a bunch of grenades into a pack of minoris and majoris enemies, wiping out the minoris and stunning the majoris, run up and execute a majoris and have full ammo again for the next pack. What's not to like?

The heavy bolter is pretty good to but it's not as versatile as the one with the grenade launcher.

[A Mongoose]

Postat inițial de The Grand Mugwump:

Some people would argue it's bolter with grenade launcher (a variant of the bolter rifle). I think that gun isn't all it's hyped up to be. It's not as much fun to shoot as other bolter weapons and the grenades become more and more limited with higher difficulties.

I personally prefer the heavy bolt rifle. It sounds good, it feels good, and it can tear the swarms of minoris apart pretty easily if they're clumped up. If you invest in accuracy and/or reduced recoil, it will score head shots extremely consistently, which lets it incapacitate at least two majoris enemies per clip if your weapon is the same quality as the mission difficulty.

The only one I'd say to avoid is the auto bolter rifle. It seems to be pretty bad in general. It shoots too fast to be accurate, and it eats through ammo without seeming to accomplish much.

You haven't seen a Relic Grenade Launcher in action on Ruthless, have you?

You Auspex a bunch of Warriors, then pepper them with triple damage grenades. Any grenades you spend killing the first one are immediately refunded, allowing you to kill even more enemies. That same combo is also incredibly effective against bosses. I've killedd Carnifexes frighteningly quickly with it.

But I agree that the Heavy Bolt Rifle is very satisfying to use, and that the Auto Bolt Rifle is kind of naff. It doesn't have enough variants, thus not enough perks, and it doesn't do anything particularly special.

[Malthar]

Regular bolt rifle can get the underbarrel nade launcher, im partial to that

[John Boltgun]

Is the single shot scout bolter, I forgot the name, any good by Relic tier?

[BaronZen]

To me seems always a self hindrance to use a bolter when you have plasma and melta at your disposal without to much need to juggle with grenade number, because the only worty tac bolter Is the one with nades because It has them, if i am correct devs stated they will buff bolter weapons.

[DanaramaPyjama]

Green, I like the standard bolter, and the heavy bolter. Lean towards heavy because at green it has 0.5 more firepower than standard bolter and more ammo.

[Modern Colonial]

I leveled all the bolt weapons on tactical to maximum, excepting the auto bolt rifle which I am doing now.
Bolt rifle with grenade launcher is also meta, if they fix the infinite grenade loop it will be sad but still usable. Heavy bolt rifle is okay vs swarms, very weak vs majoris and up. Auto bolt rifle and smg bolt carbine are virtually useless, the only time they feel """alright""" is if you're being chased by a swarm and you're hip firing into it.
Bolt rifle without grenade launcher and marksman bolt carbine are quite similar, the bolt carbine is a fair bit better at keeping repeated shots on target but has less damage and struggles even more vs hordes. Their ttk vs majoris/extremis is actually decent, but they deal no stagger whatsoever.
Stalker bolter is the best by far and genuinely decent. It has less dps than lasfusil on sniper but tactical can make good use of it if you want a sniper type weapon on that class. Tactical also completely fixes its ammo issues, you can spam shots freely with the relic ammo variant and all relevant ammo perks. The dps is still alright and you will shred through majoris enemies and even punch big holes into hordes with repeated shots. The most annoying thing about the weapon is the severe recoil that does not reset after firing so you have to constantly fight the weapon to stay on target.

[valium]

The heavy bolt rifle is still pretty decent against non-swarms, probably second to stalker while still being better against swarms. Overall that is my favorite Tactical weapon, just wish it was a little better.

[Modern Colonial]

Postat inițial de valium:

The heavy bolt rifle is still pretty decent against non-swarms, probably second to stalker while still being better against swarms. Overall that is my favorite Tactical weapon, just wish it was a little better.

No it is not decent vs majoris and up, go and try the bolt rifle or marksman carbine and feel that difference. It's like a lawn mower vs swarms at least, while swarms are a huge pain with the single shot weapons, so pick your poison. The heavy bolt rifle is at least usable vs majoris enemies, the auto bolt rifle and smg carbine feel like nerf guns, you can mag dump into the head of a majoris enemy and still won't kill them.

[badger vortex]

there's a pretty thorough guide that goes through comparing all the bolters for tactical

https://www.reddit.com/r/Spacemarine/comments/1fgliv3/lets_talk_bolt_weapons_an_informal_guide_to_the/

if you don't wanna read all that there's a useful comparison of how many headshots it takes to disable a warrior on ruthless at the bottom

[CHAO$$$]

bolter with grenade launcher is cracked
almost as good as melta, prolly second best gun in the game

goes in the same tier as las for sure

[Kalitz]

I would say Bolter with Granade Launcher. Haven't tried Stalker yet, but Heavy struggles against bosses and extremiss type enemies. Yes, it has lods of ammo, but that's about it.