Armor Data

[Apothecary Michael]

At the moment if you want to level your Weapons, you need Armor Data to unlock the higher tiers.
My Problem is, it forces you in certain dificultys to get the Armor Data you need. If you need green ones you are forced to do the first two difficultys, if you need purple or yellow. Well you go to the corrosponding difficulties. I'm not confident enough to bother other people with my Level 13 Assult in difficulty 3 or even 4. So i now level an easier class to later farm the needed Armor Data.

In my opinion they should repurpose Armor Data as follow:
- No more Restrictions on Leveling Weapons
- Armor Data becomes a consumeable that raises the EXP of a Weapon or the overall Weapon EXP for that Weapon Type of your choice
- The Amount of Armor Data depends on Type more XP for higher difficulty

This would allow you to level other Weapons without equiping them. At the moment for example Power Fist is considered a bad Weapon. So you can Level this without using that weapon.

[ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0]

actually no. you can unlock greens with purples and i believe yellows as well. so play the harder ones if you like. but just know that the lower level weapons aren't very effective on higher difficulties

Edit: and the powerfist isn't that bad, but it sucks compared to the power sword and hammer, but it could use some sort of buff, i've been leveling it up the past couple of days, finally got it to purple, and i reallllly don't like it compared to the power sword

[Sevenus]

You can use upper armory data to unlock lower levels.

[B1GMike]

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

actually no. you can unlock greens with purples and i believe yellows as well. so play the harder ones if you like. but just know that the lower level weapons aren't very effective on higher difficulties

Originally posted by Sevenus:

You can use upper armory data to unlock lower levels.

Not one but two people that don't read before posting. Nothing was mentioned about using higher level datas to unlock lower levels.

OP specifically said they aren't comfortable joining higher difficulty games with randoms. Their proposed solution was to make the different tiers of data work like XP where Green is least and Yellow is the most, so that way you could level all of your weapons by just getting the data and spending it how you see fit. Yeah you would have to run more low level ops to unlock things, but for some people that's fine. Not a bad suggestion imo.

[ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0]

Originally posted by B1GMike:

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

actually no. you can unlock greens with purples and i believe yellows as well. so play the harder ones if you like. but just know that the lower level weapons aren't very effective on higher difficulties

Originally posted by Sevenus:

You can use upper armory data to unlock lower levels.

Not one but two people that don't read before posting. Nothing was mentioned about using higher level datas to unlock lower levels.

OP specifically said they aren't comfortable joining higher difficulty games with randoms. Their proposed solution was to make the different tiers of data work like XP where Green is least and Yellow is the most, so that way you could level all of your weapons by just getting the data and spending it how you see fit. Yeah you would have to run more low level ops to unlock things, but for some people that's fine. Not a bad suggestion imo.

sounds like a personal problem then. get good, or get good friends. problem solved. spacemarines don't ♥♥♥♥♥ about how "hard" it is, they just do their damn job

[DanaramaPyjama]

Originally posted by Waffenbruder:

At the moment if you want to level your Weapons, you need Armor Data to unlock the higher tiers.
My Problem is, it forces you in certain dificultys to get the Armor Data you need. If you need green ones you are forced to do the first two difficultys, if you need purple or yellow. Well you go to the corrosponding difficulties. I'm not confident enough to bother other people with my Level 13 Assult in difficulty 3 or even 4. So i now level an easier class to later farm the needed Armor Data.

In my opinion they should repurpose Armor Data as follow:
- No more Restrictions on Leveling Weapons
- Armor Data becomes a consumeable that raises the EXP of a Weapon or the overall Weapon EXP for that Weapon Type of your choice
- The Amount of Armor Data depends on Type more XP for higher difficulty

This would allow you to level other Weapons without equiping them. At the moment for example Power Fist is considered a bad Weapon. So you can Level this without using that weapon.

I hear you. I'm really bad at the game. No artificer until the third difficulty which I can't even manage yet. I'm going to have to stay in the lower difficulties probably until I've got all my class perks.

It definitely would be nice to be able to get my character AND weapons stronger to off set my own lack of skill to attempt higher difficulties.

[Apothecary Michael]

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

actually no. you can unlock greens with purples and i believe yellows as well. so play the harder ones if you like. but just know that the lower level weapons aren't very effective on higher difficulties

Edit: and the powerfist isn't that bad, but it sucks compared to the power sword and hammer, but it could use some sort of buff, i've been leveling it up the past couple of days, finally got it to purple, and i reallllly don't like it compared to the power sword

Originally posted by Sevenus:

You can use upper armory data to unlock lower levels.

You can only use the upper ones when you get them. You already say, the low level Weapons aren`t as effective at higher Levels. Now you have a player with "green" Weapons, reaching level 10. Barely the recommended Equipment for diffuculty 3. You don`t know anything about that players Skills. Worst Case he is not good enough yet. So you have to carry him.
With the current system there are two options, stop progressing with your class or jump in a difficulty you are not comfortable with and force some randoms to carry you.
I want inestad a other choice. Slower progress instead of stillstand.

Originally posted by B1GMike:

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

actually no. you can unlock greens with purples and i believe yellows as well. so play the harder ones if you like. but just know that the lower level weapons aren't very effective on higher difficulties

Originally posted by Sevenus:

You can use upper armory data to unlock lower levels.

Not one but two people that don't read before posting. Nothing was mentioned about using higher level datas to unlock lower levels.

OP specifically said they aren't comfortable joining higher difficulty games with randoms. Their proposed solution was to make the different tiers of data work like XP where Green is least and Yellow is the most, so that way you could level all of your weapons by just getting the data and spending it how you see fit. Yeah you would have to run more low level ops to unlock things, but for some people that's fine. Not a bad suggestion imo.

You got it absolutly right

[Vazc0]

thats why i like vermintide 2s approach on difficulty.
the highest difficulty doesnt give more rewards than the second highest, so people can enjoy a challenge if they want and players who dont want to challenge themselves can play on the lower difficulties without fear of missing out.

its totally fine in space marine 2 though, if you dont get artificer or relic gear if you dont want to play on that difficulty. master crafted gear is more than enough on the lower difficulty and you'll have to get better at the game anyway. no matter what gear you use.

learning game nechanics will get you way further than any piece of gear ever could.

Edit: there is no ''bad'' weapon atm. some are a bit overtuned, some may be a bit weaker, but every weapon is viable on any difficulty.

[Apothecary Michael]

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

Originally posted by B1GMike:

Not one but two people that don't read before posting. Nothing was mentioned about using higher level datas to unlock lower levels.

OP specifically said they aren't comfortable joining higher difficulty games with randoms. Their proposed solution was to make the different tiers of data work like XP where Green is least and Yellow is the most, so that way you could level all of your weapons by just getting the data and spending it how you see fit. Yeah you would have to run more low level ops to unlock things, but for some people that's fine. Not a bad suggestion imo.

sounds like a personal problem then. get good, or get good friends. problem solved. spacemarines don't ♥♥♥♥♥ about how "hard" it is, they just do their damn job

Will you be my good friend and carry me? I don`t think so. I have good friends, but they don`t play the game. So one Option isn`t a solution.
Get good.... Okay i get better by joining higher difficulties and bothering other people till i got better? Sound good?

[BaronZen]

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

actually no. you can unlock greens with purples and i believe yellows as well. so play the harder ones if you like. but just know that the lower level weapons aren't very effective on higher difficulties

Edit: and the powerfist isn't that bad, but it sucks compared to the power sword and hammer, but it could use some sort of buff, i've been leveling it up the past couple of days, finally got it to purple, and i reallllly don't like it compared to the power sword

Wait for relic fencing Power fist, It Is fast like a knife but hits like a truck.

[ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0]

Originally posted by Waffenbruder:

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

sounds like a personal problem then. get good, or get good friends. problem solved. spacemarines don't ♥♥♥♥♥ about how "hard" it is, they just do their damn job

Will you be my good friend and carry me? I don`t think so. I have good friends, but they don`t play the game. So one Option isn`t a solution.
Get good.... Okay i get better by joining higher difficulties and bothering other people till i got better? Sound good?

i never said i wouldn't. its a lot easier to carry someone. if youre free tomorrow(sunday) night, i'll see if i can get another friend to help carry you through a purple and possibly a yellow, it wouldn't be the first time i've done it. don't be afraid to be the one that sucks on a team, everyones been there. so long as youre not dying 20 times its no skin off my ass to help someone get better gear.

Edit: i am serious by the way, send a friend request if youre interested and when i wake up i'll see if i can get another high level friend to join us for a purple/yellow run for ya.

[Sgt. Giggle Mittens]

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

Originally posted by B1GMike:

Not one but two people that don't read before posting. Nothing was mentioned about using higher level datas to unlock lower levels.

OP specifically said they aren't comfortable joining higher difficulty games with randoms. Their proposed solution was to make the different tiers of data work like XP where Green is least and Yellow is the most, so that way you could level all of your weapons by just getting the data and spending it how you see fit. Yeah you would have to run more low level ops to unlock things, but for some people that's fine. Not a bad suggestion imo.

sounds like a personal problem then. get good, or get good friends. problem solved. spacemarines don't ♥♥♥♥♥ about how "hard" it is, they just do their damn job

autism speaks

[ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0]

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

sounds like a personal problem then. get good, or get good friends. problem solved. spacemarines don't ♥♥♥♥♥ about how "hard" it is, they just do their damn job

autism speaks

who me? yeah how'd you guess? how about you try to contribute something helpful to the discussion rather then attacking a person for their opinion, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tool

[Sgt. Giggle Mittens]

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

autism speaks

who me? yeah how'd you guess? how about you try to contribute something helpful to the discussion rather then attacking a person for their opinion, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tool

"Get gud" is not contributing either. Its a garbage hot take from spergs that attempts to discredit legitimate complaints with "SKILL ISSUE" rather then contributing anything worth while.

[ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0]

Originally posted by Sgt. Giggle Mittens:

Originally posted by ℕatas Ҝhan}HvC{2.0:

who me? yeah how'd you guess? how about you try to contribute something helpful to the discussion rather then attacking a person for their opinion, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ tool

"Get gud" is not contributing either. Its a garbage hot take from spergs that attempts to discredit legitimate complaints with "SKILL ISSUE" rather then contributing anything worth while.

i did contribute something, i offered to carry them later on, what have you contributed? ♥♥♥♥ all so stfu and move along

[Sgt. Giggle Mittens]

Originally posted by Sevenus:

You can use upper armory data to unlock lower levels.

that is a massive waste of armory data.