Addressing Hive Tyrant (and similar mechanics)

[John Helldiver]

One of the most frustrating issues when it comes to boss fights is scaling difficulty and challenge vs Player skill.

What sucks the fun factor and the skill factor out of the game is when "undodgeable" and unmitigable elements are introduced into play. Such mechanics as the Hive Tyrants second stage where it gets enraged and starts pulsing waves of psychic energy that cannot truly be dodged and guarantees damage against the space marine players.

This is not fun or skill based and certainly puts a time table on slaying the beast. We either need better healing mechanics in an apothecary class or we need the mechanics of the fight itself re-evaluated.

[Righteous Old Bald Git]

always dodge-forward the pulse waves

[BirdDinosaur]

Escrito originalmente por Joker-IV:

So what’s the verdict on how to dodge the attacks? I feel like sometimes I can sometimes I can’t dodge the pulse attack

You can dodge its attacks. You just need to get the timing right. Some of his attacks require you to perfect dodge or get hit. Pulsing waves attack can be dodged. Watch a youtube video or something. This generation of scum loves to be spoon fed information smdh. You've got a brain, use it to acquire information you don't have instead of complaining about it.

[BirdDinosaur]

Escrito originalmente por Doomvora:

Escrito originalmente por John_Danktide:

What sucks the fun factor and the skill factor out of the game is when "undodgeable" and unmitigable elements are introduced into play. Such mechanics as the Hive Tyrants second stage where it gets enraged and starts pulsing waves of psychic energy that cannot truly be dodged and guarantees damage against the space marine players.

The hive tyrant does not have anything that's undodgeable.

How does that even relate to scaling difficulty anyway?

Also the neurothrope has the exact same mechanic and is dodgeable.

its even in the main campaign as a tutorial if they played the story missions.

[kain279]

I've never beat the hive tyrant on Ruthless still, every time I've tried we wipe when he starts sending out the non stop pulses. I just stopped queuing for that one.

[Infrasound]

Escrito originalmente por Crack dealer undercover:

i can dodge waves every time, skil issue

theyre not always consistent sadly.

[mikec_81]

The 360 degree expanding bubble is identical to the Neurothrope mechanic and can be dodge everytime without fail. Any dodge direction will work as long as it is timed properly.

The one that gets me a lot is the green wave he flings at players at range. On occasion he will fling 2 in rapid succession and I find that I cannot dodge the 2nd wave since I can be sometimes caught at the end of the dodge roll animation and get hit.

It is likely a skill issue on my end since i have on occasion (1 in 3 times) managed to dodge both waves though I can't pinpoint exactly why I succeed or fail. When I see the attack I just roll twice sideways and hope for the best....

[AonGreyFox]

Eh? you mean the pulsing wave that expand 3 times?

Roll/step dodge into or your side. Timing your dodge, that it. Far more easier than dodge Zoan laser.

[Excal]

Wdym? You can dodge those attacks, I try dodging sideways its more easier for me, you gotta time it right. I find its harder to dodge when you are dodging direclty forwards into it i think. I never really get hit by those waves from hive tyrant on the other hand, I find zoanthorpes like way harder to dodge for some stupid reason even tho its kind of is the same attack pattern

[Phlier]

Escrito originalmente por AonGreyFox:

Eh? you mean the pulsing wave that expand 3 times?

Roll/step dodge into or your side. Timing your dodge, that it. Far more easier than dodge Zoan laser.

No, he's talking about the ranged that is flung from his sword. Usually thrown as two, back to back.

[dominaterxxx899]

I've fought the hive tyrant boss around 7-10 and I do know how to time my dodges to its attack. The first 5 times I had no problem dodging, but now it seems like when I try to dodge I get hit EVERY..SINGLE..TIME. I even try dodging early or late in case its lag, fps, or some other bull, it's just not working.

[dominaterxxx899]

BTW I forgot to mention that I also tried dodging in different directions.

[silverSif]

I love fighting the Hive Tyrant because it is the only true aggressive boss in the game. I always do Solo Lethal Decapitation Runs, and I've mastered every move it does. Everything is dodge-able and parry-able 100%. You'r only problem will the Majoris near it because it will ruin your timing against the Tyrant. You just need to separate the Minoris and Majoris from it and prioritize them before the Tyrant.