vanguard

[nate]

what do you guys think of the class specifically in PVE? some of the perks in my opinion are lacking. it does have good ones tho

[Chief]

vanguard one of the strongest class.

[nate]

just thought some perks were lacking until the end of progression

[DragynDance]

Their personal strength is a bit lackluster, but they have one of the strongest team perks in the game. 15% ability charge on executions for the entire party, and thats all melee executions, even minoris ones, makes everyone else have soooo much more fun.

[TopHatBoar]

15% ability charge per execution is huge, other than that, he's just another one with melta, meaning you can't go wrong with him

[Xarko]

Pretty strong class. Can't stand the voice acting though. He's super edgy and cringe.

[Damage Case]

That's the only class I play. Vanguard rocks!

[Nihil]

One of the best class.
Vangard is the assault class the assault failed to be.

[Damage Case]

Originally posted by TopHatBoar:

15% ability charge per execution is huge, other than that, he's just another one with melta, meaning you can't go wrong with him

Not true. I am sporting a bolter carbine now. Just changes your perception of the game. But, as everyone says: bolter weapons must be buffed. (and the devs keep saying that they are ok-well, no, they are not).

[dead2571]

Personally, while I think some of the perks are lacking, the ones that are not lacking are incredibly strong and class overall I find strong, even without using a melta, just wish the bolters were better.

[Rock]

Solid class. Melta rifle for trash clearing, pistol + melee dueling anything that isn't swarm.

Fencing knife and Vanguard perk to boost perfect parry window ? You can potato very hard your parry timings and still get a perfect parry. If your at or below 50% of your HP your perfect dodge window increases by 50%. You are very slippery Space Marine.

The only thing actually boring with this class is the hook ability and ALL of the equipment perks for it. Nothing interesting is going on with the hook. It's good mobility, but any of its perks are just so lackluster.

That being said I enjoy the class a lot. In fact I love all of the classes. Most of them are maxed, some of them are missing 3 or so levels.

[Evoc]

vanguard is the second or third worse depending on how you look at it. Heavy, sniper, and tactical are by far the top 3 not in any particular order. Then the 4th spot is bulwark or vanguard. Than of course assault in last.

[kbeatz]

It's fast, has a great ability, and has access to the melta. Very good class!

[puRe]

Originally posted by dead2571:

Personally, while I think some of the perks are lacking, the ones that are not lacking are incredibly strong and class overall I find strong, even without using a melta, just wish the bolters were better.

I agree. The perks are very hit and miss, with only a few decision to make, at least in my opinion.
The instigator bolt rifle is probably my favorite ranged weapon and I'm always happy to have a tactical or heavy in the team, so I don't have to take the melta.

If someone takes care of ranged enemies, you can basically clear a massive horde yourself just with melee, even with the combat knife and still have full health at the end, regardless if you take hits.

Duellist makes you a parry god.
Honed Reactions is your panic skill if you're getting a bit low on health.
Both work with Upper Hand that helps you with staying in the fight all the time.

Inner Fire is the best team perk in the game.
Tip of the Spear is awesome if you have a lot of ranged damage on the team.

And for the signature perks...

I prefer Adrenaline Rush* over Emperor's Blessing because it keeps you fighting without hugging medkits. Most of the time I just carry one in case everything goes wrong.

*Adrenaline Rush is either bugged or has wrong wording. Instead of 1% you heal about 10% per majoris kill.
My guess would be both. 1% is just useless and 10% is a lot, compared to other signature skills of every class.

[Nokturnal]

Both Assault and Vanguard's perks aren't great, the other classes have much better designed Perks.

But Vanguard is just a better Assault solely due to having access to a Melta Gun. Though, even the Grappling Hook is better than the Jump pack imo, (stunlocks the enemy you hit, staggers everything around it, versus no damage reduction while flying, you get shot while flying, you get shot upon landing too lol)

Having access to Melta alone makes Heavy, Tactical and Vanguard top tier PVE classes.