If Veteran is too Hard

[JayTac]

If veteran is too hard for you, don't play on it. Why are we making veteran easier when bad players can simply select a lower difficulty???

[Dexta]

They arent touching the the highest difficulty (Ruthless) and they are adding even harder one (Lethal)

[PT-Desu]

because they decided to lock progression with difficulty, eventually people will want to try and progress and they need to play those harder difficulties.

by progression i mean the better gear

[MoiCestTOM]

+1 i played on veteran and seriously its was so easy... same for pve operation i play on the hardes difficulty its damn easy there is not enough enemy and player say gaga enemy are too strong.... THATS THE POINT OF THE DIFFICULTY !

[Hexagoros]

The devs surveyed the community, and the playerbase says the enemies are too spongy.

https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/84-message-to-the-community-a-first-q-a

The devs are here to sell games and dlc, and so they need to make the game the players want.

[A Goth Elf]

If Veteran will be too easy for you, why not just select Angel of Death as it will be untouched and match your desired difficulty? All that's really happening is tweaking of AI to make them more aggressive from the sound of it.

[Moon Punisher]

The devs literally tell any new player that the game should be played on veteran.

Besides, coop wise, the devs locked progression behind difficulty, so yeah, even the worst played ever will have to play higher difficulties to get better gear.

[JayTac]

Originally posted by Nessie:

If Veteran will be too easy for you, why not just select Angel of Death as it will be untouched and match your desired difficulty? All that's really happening is tweaking of AI to make them more aggressive from the sound of it.

Veteran, as is, matches my desired difficulty. So there is no reason for me to change when I already had the difficulty I preferred.

This is a vocal minority of bad players who are too dumb and egotistical to move down a difficulty.

[A Goth Elf]

Originally posted by JayTac:

Originally posted by Nessie:

If Veteran will be too easy for you, why not just select Angel of Death as it will be untouched and match your desired difficulty? All that's really happening is tweaking of AI to make them more aggressive from the sound of it.

Veteran, as is, matches my desired difficulty. So there is no reason for me to change when I already had the difficulty I preferred.

This is a vocal minority of bad players who are too dumb and egotistical to move down a difficulty.

I don't think it is a minority saying it. A majority of players and friends I have spoken to all agree that the AI is awful on that difficulty (all difficulty really for that matter). I don't think its going to change your experience that much with the exception of the AI actually shooting and defending objectives. Plus if you are playing with others, I don't think this will impact anything.

Plus calling everyone dumb and egotistical doesn't help your argument. People want to progress through the difficulty and bad AI shouldn't be the gatekeeper on that if they want to play solo.

[JayTac]

Originally posted by Nessie:

Originally posted by JayTac:

Veteran, as is, matches my desired difficulty. So there is no reason for me to change when I already had the difficulty I preferred.

This is a vocal minority of bad players who are too dumb and egotistical to move down a difficulty.

I don't think it is a minority saying it. A majority of players and friends I have spoken to all agree that the AI is awful on that difficulty (all difficulty really for that matter). I don't think its going to change your experience that much with the exception of the AI actually shooting and defending objectives. Plus if you are playing with others, I don't think this will impact anything.

Plus calling everyone dumb and egotistical doesn't help your argument. People want to progress through the difficulty and bad AI shouldn't be the gatekeeper on that if they want to play solo.

AI teammates are passive across all difficulties. Read the announcement. They are planning to make AI more helpful in boss fights. Separate from that, they're going to be nerfing enemy aggressiveness on veteran, specifically, to make that mode easier. It's the latter I have a problem with.

Again, if your friends want to progress, all they have to do is lower the difficulty. Why haven't they?

[Izlude]

Originally posted by JayTac:

If veteran is too hard for you, don't play on it. Why are we making veteran easier when bad players can simply select a lower difficulty???

gun progression is locked behind higher difficulties so its very common to see people with unupgraded guns trying the 2 hardest difficulties as they have no other way to increase their weapons damage. Its a catch 22 from the devs, you need better guns to not be a drain on the team but you can only get them by playing difficulties where your dps is just far too low. So you have the current mess I run into a lot where most people on the highest 2 difficulties are unable to be even as helpful in combat as a bot so even with my crappy gear im forced to carry.

[Mullins]

Look guys, an elitist idiot.

[Hexagoros]

Originally posted by JayTac:

, specifically, to make that mode easier. It's the latter I have a problem with.

Again, if your friends want to progress, all they have to do is lower the difficulty. Why haven't they?

This is a lie.

Progression is locked behind difficulty. No Diff 3, no purple armory data. No Diff 4, no gold/yellow armory data.

No armory data = no progression.

Originally posted by Mullins:

Look guys, an elitist idiot.

Exactly this.

[Jackson Lamb]

Originally posted by Mullins:

Look guys, an elitist idiot.

/thread

[DragynDance]

Yeah, I agree. I hope that their plan to "nerf" the difficulty rather is to make the AI not useless though. That would be a fun way that still wouldn't take away the player agency. For example the mission where you have to spin the wheels, having the AI smart enough to pick off enemies coming towards you would be extremely helpful in making that mission less tedious.

[DragynDance]

Originally posted by Hexagoros:

Originally posted by JayTac:

, specifically, to make that mode easier. It's the latter I have a problem with.

Again, if your friends want to progress, all they have to do is lower the difficulty. Why haven't they?

This is a lie.

Progression is locked behind difficulty. No Diff 3, no purple armory data. No Diff 4, no gold/yellow armory data.

No armory data = no progression.

Originally posted by Mullins:

Look guys, an elitist idiot.

Exactly this.

Why do you need progression if you don't intend to do the higher difficulties though? Thats like complaining you have to beat level 3 in super mario to play level 4. The stronger weapons aren't a reward for going higher, they're a tool to aid in going higher.